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I have no idea what I should use for drivers:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce Go 6200/6400] (rev a1)
That's part if the output of lspci. What driver should I use?
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You should be fine running the straight "nvidia" driver, which is the driver for "newer cards"
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nouveau
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You should be fine running the straight "nvidia" driver, which is the driver for "newer cards"
+1 for the nvidia package. I have a 6200 and this package works great.
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Only if he doesn't want 3D, please don't give incomplete answers.
To the OP, have you read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia?
All the information is there.
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If you don't need 3D functionality, I'll also suggest Nouveau.
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If you are using kde, just as an fyi, the new beta nvidia drivers 195.30 have some very good fixes implemented which makes that desktop's issues with slow screen draw and responsiveness go away. The driver IS beta, but the feedback via the NV forums has been generally ecstatic from KDE users.
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@sHyLoCk, are you recommending installing the nvidia driver without pacman. I'm curious as I have problems with suspend/resume with the latest Arch packages for nvidia drivers.
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If you are using kde, just as an fyi, the new beta nvidia drivers 195.30 have some very good fixes implemented which makes that desktop's issues with slow screen draw and responsiveness go away. The driver IS beta, but the feedback via the NV forums has been generally ecstatic from KDE users.
195.30 has been moved into [extra] several days ago I think...
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jwwolf wrote:nouveau
Only if he doesn't want 3D, please don't give incomplete answers.
To the OP, have you read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia?
All the information is there.
My answer isn't incomplete.He asked
What driver should I use
In my opinion he should use nouveau and help it grown.Obviously he is looking for feedback on exactly which driver package he should use(out of the many available).An opinion cannot be "incomplete".
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@sHyLoCk, are you recommending installing the nvidia driver without pacman. I'm curious as I have problems with suspend/resume with the latest Arch packages for nvidia drivers.
Yup and it works fine. I always compile the driver from nvidia's site in both of my Arch and Slackboxes and they work fine. Suspend/resume works fine here with pm-utils.
Also recently the ubuntu's packaged driver also had problems and so I recommended them to use the run file instead and it works for them.
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Where possible you should minimize the files on your system which aren't under your package management software (pacman in this case). This is particularly the case with a relatively common package like nvidia for which packages are already available. Makes debugging easier, and allows for a cleaner system if/when you need to change driver.
@jwwolf, since this is the Newbie Corner, it'd be helpful to take the time to at least add a few words on the difference between nouveau and the nvidia drivers...
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195.30 has been moved into [extra] several days ago I think...
hum... I don't see it there. but it's in AUR as nvidia-beta.
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graysky wrote:195.30 has been moved into [extra] several days ago I think...
hum... I don't see it there. but it's in AUR as nvidia-beta.
You might wanna switch mirrors. See when the last time your mirror sync'ed: http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html According to locke, the 195.30 package has been there since 12/31/2009 at 5:15 PM.
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I would also chime in in recommending the standard nvidia package.
Sadly the open source efforts lack in 3D support too much to be all that useful for most people.
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Current releases
Current official release: 190.53 (x86 / x86_64)
Current beta release: 195.30 (x86 / x86_64)
Legacy releases for GeForce 5 series GPUs
Current official release: 173.14.22 (x86 / x86_64)
Legacy releases for GeForce 2 through GeForce 4 series GPUs
Current official release: 96.43.14 (x86 / x86_64)
Legacy releases for Riva TNT, TNT2, GeForce, and some GeForce 2 GPUs
Current official release: 71.86.11 (x86 / x86_64)
@dragos240 : from those list..You can find out which driver version should be installed for your vga
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frigaut wrote:graysky wrote:195.30 has been moved into [extra] several days ago I think...
hum... I don't see it there. but it's in AUR as nvidia-beta.
You might wanna switch mirrors. See when the last time your mirror sync'ed: http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html According to locke, the 195.30 package has been there since 12/31/2009 at 5:15 PM.
Good point. my mirror was last sync'ed on Thu Dec 31 10:01:05 UTC 2009, so just before the date you quote. Thanks for the link, very handy. Somehow, I thought mirrors were updated much more often than this.
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graysky wrote:frigaut wrote:hum... I don't see it there. but it's in AUR as nvidia-beta.
You might wanna switch mirrors. See when the last time your mirror sync'ed: http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html According to locke, the 195.30 package has been there since 12/31/2009 at 5:15 PM.
Good point. my mirror was last sync'ed on Thu Dec 31 10:01:05 UTC 2009, so just before the date you quote. Thanks for the link, very handy. Somehow, I thought mirrors were updated much more often than this.
Depends on the mirror.
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Where possible you should minimize the files on your system which aren't under your package management software (pacman in this case). This is particularly the case with a relatively common package like nvidia for which packages are already available. Makes debugging easier, and allows for a cleaner system if/when you need to change driver.
@jwwolf, since this is the Newbie Corner, it'd be helpful to take the time to at least add a few words on the difference between nouveau and the nvidia drivers...
you should not make things up. in the case of nvidia pacman is nothing more than wrapper. In this specific case it actually limits nvidia original installer.
there is not such thing as "cleaner" system: this is linux so user is allowed to use distro specific packaging system or sources.
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ngoonee wrote:Where possible you should minimize the files on your system which aren't under your package management software (pacman in this case). This is particularly the case with a relatively common package like nvidia for which packages are already available. Makes debugging easier, and allows for a cleaner system if/when you need to change driver.
@jwwolf, since this is the Newbie Corner, it'd be helpful to take the time to at least add a few words on the difference between nouveau and the nvidia drivers...
you should not make things up. in the case of nvidia pacman is nothing more than wrapper. In this specific case it actually limits nvidia original installer.
there is not such thing as "cleaner" system: this is linux so user is allowed to use distro specific packaging system or sources.
I agree with gnoonee. The good thing about using pacman to install anything, including the Nvidia driver is:
Someone else does the work.
Automatic updates.
Very very easy to uninstall it. If you want to try the open source driver, or, if you install an ATI video card, then it is very easy to change drivers.
No different than installing it the "Nvidia" way, which would be by downloading it from nvidia.com. If a package is not installed the way you want it to be, then I recommend making (or changing) the PKGBUILD file and making your own package. It's easy to do!
That's only my advice. Of course, it's your computer, and you can do whatever you want with it. But I've had too many Linux installations become "dirty" because I strayed too far from the package manager.
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+1 for what drcouzelis said. There is no reason not to use pacman to install your packages. Pacman is Arch. Pacman is one of the best if not the best package manager out there. To not use it is insane.
195.30 has been moved into [extra] several days ago I think...
My dyslexia kicked in here... Currently, nvidia-190.53 is in the main repos. Frigaut asked about the current nvidia-beta which is 195.30. This version is not in the main repos, but is in the AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15152
Sorry for the confusion
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The provided nvidia package is fine & recommened & I use it on my laptop....except it doesn't work with custom compiled kernels. For that application you do need to manually install the binary blob (downloaded from nvidia) from the shell.
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@sultan - you can compile your own nvidia package with a custom kernel and install it via pacman. You shouldn't ever need to use a 3rd party installer... they can and often do lead to problems down the road. See this post for more.
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I forgot that this is newbie corner, sorry
not to mention that completely off topic (methods of installation).
@OP
your card is listed as compatible with 190.53:
http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86 … dix-a.html
so you can install 190.53 from AUR
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