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I just got done/published the article yesterday.
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Last edited by maveric7911 (2009-12-29 17:40:37)
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Did you forget something? ;)
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http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=3700&p=3
I went ahead and found the link, becuase I'm that nice of a guy ![]()
Hofstadter's Law:
It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.
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LOL sorry about that.
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But this is rediculous. They compare games written for windows with stuff running on wine. What kind of comparison is that.
If it was a serious article they'd have compared cross platform games (maybe even including mac) and written about what to expect in the future when it comes to games writte for linux - if there will be a market etc.
This is justa bit silly.
On a side note: wine is pretty amazing though. The last few days I tried playing a couple of games from my windows partition. Portal (and as such probably all source engine games) ran perfectly and fast at dxlevel 80 (so no HDR but it looked pretty good) at 1600x1200. Spore also runs without the slightest problem at 1920x1200. I also ran Oblivion. Starts and loads fine, looks good but is very, very slow.
Last edited by Shapeshifter (2009-12-29 19:35:12)
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For part 1 I used wine as its commonly used. Its not all bad, look at the tf2 results. Part 2 I will have a few cross platform games and ati added to the review amongst other things.
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Guess you didn't deliver
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Personally, I still prefer dual booting into Windows XP to play games. Keeps more more productive anyway!
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Personally, I still prefer dual booting into Windows XP to play games. Keeps more more productive anyway!
Agreed unless its native to linux.
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Games i play on GNU/Linux:
World of Warcraft: Works fantastically. No problems and settings maxed. (got tired of it though and moved to lotro)
Lord of the Rings Online: Works great, though settings are from from maxed even on my AMD dual core 64 3.2ghz, gforce 9800 gx2 512meg system.
Regnum onlin - kinda fun but graphics are kinda blah, price is right though ![]()
Vendetta Online - not as good as Eve, but at least their client has native GNU/Linux support.
Penumbra series - I love this series and it has native GNU/Linux clients. Frictional games has my undying support!
Sacred - native GNU/Linux port
Nexuiz - sweet looking fps
Doom3 - Also the Darkmod conversion
Dosbox - brings all the old dos titles back to life
Next on buying list:
Shadowgrounds & Shadowground survivor
I ditched Windows altogether, completely wiped it off my system. Never going back even for games.
Last edited by Snakeye (2009-12-31 01:40:06)
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I'm considering adding WoW and Dragon Age Orgins to part 2.
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@Maveric: I thought you did a good job on the article. It was fair and the conclusions were well balanced, not unrealistically skewed to either side of the fence.
I'd be interested to hear your experiences with DragonAge Origins in the next part.
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Cool. Looks like the only thing you didn't try was the "Linux Unified Kernel" which is basically a wine kernel module as I understand it.
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@Maveric: I thought you did a good job on the article. It was fair and the conclusions were well balanced, not unrealistically skewed to either side of the fence.
I'd be interested to hear your experiences with DragonAge Origins in the next part.
Agreed, And agreed.
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I have two more coming out. One on netbook installs of linux and TRIM on linux and how SSD perform under different file systems.
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Games i play on GNU/Linux:
World of Warcraft: Works fantastically. No problems and settings maxed. (got tired of it though and moved to lotro)
Lord of the Rings Online: Works great, though settings are from from maxed even on my AMD dual core 64 3.2ghz, gforce 9800 gx2 512meg system.
Regnum onlin - kinda fun but graphics are kinda blah, price is right though
Vendetta Online - not as good as Eve, but at least their client has native GNU/Linux support.Penumbra series - I love this series and it has native GNU/Linux clients. Frictional games has my undying support!
Sacred - native GNU/Linux port
Nexuiz - sweet looking fps
Doom3 - Also the Darkmod conversion
Dosbox - brings all the old dos titles back to lifeNext on buying list:
Shadowgrounds & Shadowground survivor
Regnum: I have tried it recently. Their Linux client is some crappy bag of bugs hacked from their MS code that you can guess from the familiar install shield wizard. It stalls often, unexpectedly crashes, eats up the memory (1.6Gb at me after start), when connection is low it freezes the whole system, etc. And connection is often very-very bad. I suspect that this is due to some sync issue again with this client, but well, they know it. It is not too fair that they advertise their client as Linux client, 'cause it is not. It simply runs here and there on Linux.
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Personally, I still prefer dual booting into Windows XP to play games. Keeps more more productive anyway!
I stopped doing this years ago. If a game doesn't run in Wine, then I don't play it. Even then, I prefer native Linux games.
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I'd like to see comparisons of those games running on a virtual machine under linux via vmware, but yeah I agree with shapeshifter, not really fair tests when the games are all native to windows running through emulators
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I suppose I could revisit the whole "Wine vs. Windows" thing, but so far dual booting Windows seems to be less work than installing and fighting with Wine.
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Well, it hasn't been mentioned yet, so I'll add a bit. I run EVE online perfectly (two clients sometimes, also!) in wine. Zero problems whatsoever. Works like a dream. I only play games that run under Wine, and do not have Windows installed at all on my computer.
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Hi,
I would like to add to your discussion and hopefully the article.
While it is true as shapeshifter says, "But this is rediculous. They compare games written for windows with stuff running on wine. What kind of comparison is that."
However this is not the entire picture in terms of performance and playability.
While you may get a technically superior benchmark on native games in Windows, such as higher FPS, the actual gaming experience is much better on a lightweight and fast system.
This is because there are other factors intrinsic to the bloat that comes with the micro soft OS, which contribute a slow and laggy feel while playing, such as when switching between windows to multitask the game with other programs.
Or more notably, the constant anti-virus software dutifully kicking in to run a scan at regular scheduled times, lagging the game to an impossible standstill.
It is just a poorly and carelessly programmed framework which holds the entire system together.
- My 2 cents
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