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#1 2010-01-06 09:38:19

peque
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Screensaver problems

Hey Forum.

I'm running ArchLinux and having a problem with my MythTV setup.

In the bedroom I have a TV - which I allso use for hearing music, but unfortunably here is the place where it goes wrong.
I have Arch Installed (updated to latest packages) and running gnome as a desktop viewer.
When hearing to music - the screen goes into sleep mode ( blanc screen) even though It stills playing music!

I have uninstalled gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver, but still the screen goes into blanc mode each 10min and afterwards the music stops playing.

Is there aricks to be made - so that the TV will not gto into blanc mode ???

TIA

Per


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#2 2010-01-06 12:54:54

Trent
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Re: Screensaver problems

Some TVs blank the screen or turn off after a few minutes of inactivity.  I haven't heard of one that does so with an actual picture displayed, but that may be your case.

Can you give a little more information about your setup?

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#3 2010-01-06 13:26:38

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Re: Screensaver problems

Hello,

I am posting my xorg.conf:

# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder58)  Wed Dec  9 16:35:48 PST 2009

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder58)  Wed Dec  9 16:34:26 PST 2009

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "blank time" "0"
    Option         "standby time" "0"
    Option         "suspend time" "0"
    Option         "off time" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "LG TV"
    HorizSync       31.0 - 100.0
    VertRefresh     48.0 - 88.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 9600 GSO"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "DPI" "96 x 96"
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1920x1080_60 +0+0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

The parts you might want to pay attention to is the option in the "Monitor" for DPMS.... and this:

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "blank time" "0"
    Option         "standby time" "0"
    Option         "suspend time" "0"
    Option         "off time" "0"
EndSection

EDIT: This is for my current configuration... I don't know if this can apply to any xorg or just specific to mine based on my nvidia driver.  Please keep that in mind.

Last edited by JuseBox (2010-01-06 13:27:50)


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#4 2010-01-06 13:55:25

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Re: Screensaver problems

Well -
More info should be
I've disabled anywhere in gnome that I find anything about screensavers etc

The TV goes blank even thoug hmusic are playing - but not any movement on the screeen - so the screen are blanc when playing music, no virtualization or anything.
The machine are an ASUS EEE B202 with this lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2860
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)

I'm not using /etc/X11/xorg.conf since the system are finding the best resolution for it selv! SInce the
drivers/modules are intel - I haven't find a solution for this error in my setup - but are really ignoring to shold poush a bottom each time I Want to hear music more that 10minutews!


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#5 2010-01-06 13:57:28

JuseBox
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Re: Screensaver problems

peque wrote:

Well -
More info should be
I've disabled anywhere in gnome that I find anything about screensavers etc

The TV goes blank even thoug hmusic are playing - but not any movement on the screeen - so the screen are blanc when playing music, no virtualization or anything.
The machine are an ASUS EEE B202 with this lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2860
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)

I'm not using /etc/X11/xorg.conf since the system are finding the best resolution for it selv! SInce the
drivers/modules are intel - I haven't find a solution for this error in my setup - but are really ignoring to shold poush a bottom each time I Want to hear music more that 10minutews!

Okay so your not using any desktop environment right?


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#6 2010-01-06 14:06:23

peque
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Re: Screensaver problems

Desktop Enviorment - Well I belive Gnome is.

Using GDM to auto login to the system and start MythFrontend on the clients!


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#7 2010-01-06 14:12:55

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Re: Screensaver problems

peque wrote:

Desktop Enviorment - Well I belive Gnome is.

Using GDM to auto login to the system and start MythFrontend on the clients!

I am curious how you are running without an xserver are you using something else.


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#8 2010-01-06 14:18:36

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Re: Screensaver problems

OK - At that point.

Well I have xserver installed and Gnome as default uses this. But xorg.conf are autodetecting the screen and usingt these setting .- so offcarse I'm running xserver along with gnome, using gdm as login manager!
I have installed a desktop - with gnome default - Which also installs nxserver as default ( as I remember)
But removing all screensaver and disabled the one in gnome - so I cannot see why the screen shutsa down and therefor shuts off the sound!


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#9 2010-01-06 14:20:19

JuseBox
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Re: Screensaver problems

peque wrote:

OK - At that point.

Well I have xserver installed and Gnome as default uses this. But xorg.conf are autodetecting the screen and usingt these setting .- so offcarse I'm running xserver along with gnome, using gdm as login manager!
I have installed a desktop - with gnome default - Which also installs nxserver as default ( as I remember)
But removing all screensaver and disabled the one in gnome - so I cannot see why the screen shutsa down and therefor shuts off the sound!

That is why I was showing you those additions to put in your xorg.  those should stop the screen from doing that.


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#10 2010-01-06 14:24:57

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Re: Screensaver problems

So you'll mean instead of using the default from the system, which it selv makes - I shouldcreate an xorg,conf only for that carse ( Sounds strange to me??? )

Isn't it possible to add these params in the default gnome uses when auto-detecting instead of creating my own ???


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#11 2010-01-06 14:25:56

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Re: Screensaver problems

peque wrote:

So you'll mean instead of using the default from the system, which it selv makes - I shouldcreate an xorg,conf only for that carse ( Sounds strange to me??? )

Isn't it possible to add these params in the default gnome uses when auto-detecting instead of creating my own ???

no just edit your existing xorg.conf and add those server options.


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#12 2010-01-06 14:27:13

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Re: Screensaver problems

I haven't got an existing xorg.

Gnome uses a default and do not create a xorg.conf!


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#13 2010-01-06 14:31:54

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Re: Screensaver problems

edit: /etc/X11/xorg.conf you have one edit it as root.


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#14 2010-01-06 14:41:28

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Re: Screensaver problems

Well
Sound like you dont believe me - But explaining further - Using HAL makes this unnessecary: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Running_Xorg
but still:

# ls -lah /etc/X11/
totalt 16K
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4,0K 11 jan  2009 .
drwxr-xr-x 56 root root 4,0K  6 jan 15:21 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4,0K 22 jun  2009 twm
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K  1 jan 23:29 xinit

I'm In doubt here - carse I do NOT see any xorg.conf and there for cannot do the trick.

I can force t6o make on - But when I got several different TV's etc setup on these ASUS EEE B202 boxes - this is rather disapoinyting that should do that for each machine


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#15 2010-01-06 14:43:33

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Re: Screensaver problems

peque wrote:

Well
Sound like you dont believe me - But explaining further - Using HAL makes this unnessecary: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Running_Xorg
but still:

# ls -lah /etc/X11/
totalt 16K
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4,0K 11 jan  2009 .
drwxr-xr-x 56 root root 4,0K  6 jan 15:21 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4,0K 22 jun  2009 twm
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4,0K  1 jan 23:29 xinit

I'm In doubt here - carse I do NOT see any xorg.conf and there for cannot do the trick.

I can force t6o make on - But when I got several different TV's etc setup on these ASUS EEE B202 boxes - this is rather disapoinyting that should do that for each machine

I do see that... My appologies.  Without an Xorg server I personally am not sure how you would go about that.. Is it the same issue on all your tv's?  Maybe the MythTV support somewhere?


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#16 2010-01-06 16:50:37

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Re: Screensaver problems

NO carse - It'll allso do it when just standing there ???


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#17 2010-01-12 13:40:58

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Re: Screensaver problems

peque wrote:

Well
I can force t6o make on - But when I got several different TV's etc setup on these ASUS EEE B202 boxes - this is rather disapoinyting that should do that for each machine

JuseBox wrote:

Hello,

I am posting my xorg.conf:

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "blank time" "0"
    Option         "standby time" "0"
    Option         "suspend time" "0"
    Option         "off time" "0"
EndSection

Ringing in pretty late to this thread..

@Peque
Adding the above mentioned snippet to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (create it if it doesn't exist) would override the HAL detected config for that small portion. It doesn't override the whole config in any way. I have an xorg.conf that is very very minimal for this very reason. It only contains the portions that I want to override in particular, the rest is automagically detected.

Give it a go, if it doesn't give the results you want, remove the file, restart your X session, and there is no harm done.

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#18 2010-01-12 15:14:53

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Re: Screensaver problems

@Habbit!

Thanks you very much for the detailed answer - that solved my problem!


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