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Rasi · 2010-01-21 11:52:49

You can join up for it a http://www.youtube.com/html5

For me it doesnt work. Both, firefox and chromium wont show any videos. Youtube claims my browser does not recognize any of the video formats.

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Pierre · 2010-01-21 12:15:21

Great, works fine here with chromium from [extra]. Firefox does not support h264 it wont work.

lustikus · 2010-01-21 12:27:57

can confirm that chromium works! great!

wonder · 2010-01-21 12:30:14

Pierre wrote:

Great, works fine here with chromium from [extra]. Firefox does not support h264 it wont work.

did you find a video?

lustikus · 2010-01-21 12:33:50

wonder wrote:

Pierre wrote:
Great, works fine here with chromium from [extra]. Firefox does not support h264 it wont work.
did you find a video?

after you activated it, click on "videos", all you can see now support it.

Sadly, "surprised kitty" is not yet in html5

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kaptenen · 2010-01-21 12:42:20

Too bad it dosen´t work with Firefox, yet, but the Greasemonkey script Youtube whitout flash auto is so good so i can live with that.

Krause · 2010-01-21 13:03:28

Doesn't work in uzbl or Firefox, doesn't use a Free codec. Useless, I'm sticking to downloading .flv's and watching them in mplayer.

kaptenen · 2010-01-21 13:08:12

jewdozer wrote:

Doesn't work in uzbl or Firefox, doesn't use a Free codec. Useless, I'm sticking to downloading .flv's and watching them in mplayer.

You can use the script i wrote about in my earlier post, then you can watch videos in mplayer (Gnome-mplayer) in Firefox.

Krause · 2010-01-21 13:11:34

kaptenen wrote:

jewdozer wrote:
Doesn't work in uzbl or Firefox, doesn't use a Free codec. Useless, I'm sticking to downloading .flv's and watching them in mplayer.
You can use the script i wrote about in my earlier post, then you can watch videos in mplayer (Gnome-mplayer) in Firefox.

I don't regularly use gnome or firefox, but thanks for the info. Youtube-dl and mplayer alone work just as well. Besides, I tend to download most videos to rip the music.

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Pierre · 2010-01-21 13:20:04

Maybe there is a way to compile firefox with h264 support. Usually chromium doesn't support it either; but you can simply enable it.

Krause · 2010-01-21 13:22:33

Pierre wrote:

Maybe there is a way to compile firefox with h264 support. Usually chromium doesn't support it either; but you can simply enable it.

Using non-Free codecs and standards in a Free browser kinda defeats its purpose, I'd say. Google should offer Free video codecs on html5 youtube instead, and FF and the rest of GNU/Linux browsers would support it just fine.

flamelab · 2010-01-21 13:23:14

It works here, it works on mpeg4 videos, not flv, just look for "HD" on youtube, and all of them are surely mpeg4. Too sad that we can't watch them on Firefox

mythus · 2010-01-21 13:24:07

Unfortunately it doesn't work in Opera 10.20.

Pierre · 2010-01-21 13:28:10

Well the codec (ffmpeg) is free software. There are just some patent issues in the US. There is a difference. Of course theora would be better but for now I would prefer h264 over proprietary flash. I don't know if its possible for Google to re-encode every youtube video for Firefox and if theora is already efficient enough for this task.

The point is that W3C did not define a default codec and that's we have some kind of fight atm. We'll see who wins at the end; let's just hope it wont be flash. :-)

Gusar · 2010-01-21 16:13:45

The Mozilla folks made a mistake in not providing a pluggable architecture for html5 video in Firefox. They went with liboggplay, so even if they wanted to, it won't be easy for them to add h264 support. I know they have a noble cause for free video and such... but all HD and HQ videos on youtube are h264 already and there are hardware h264 decoders in many devices... so you just can't fault google for going with h264. It's simply the reality of the situation. And while theora can maybe compete with the current h264 encoder google uses for the so called HQ videos, if you do a test yourself ripping a DVD video for example, theora is just plain bad compared to x264. I know, I ripped quite a few DVDs and I tested theora on an episode once.

Pierre has a point too, ffmpeg is free software. And I'm from Europe, so why should I have to suffer just because the US has insane patent laws?

panuh · 2010-01-21 16:37:27

Grrr. I will NOT install Google's Chrome to watch Google's Youtube-Videos

You guys discussing the technical details seem to be right about it being a lack of firefox that could have been foreseen but still...

Lately I've heard a lot about Chrome solving some problems, i had never heard of before. At least it seems so to me.

Besides the fact that I mistrust Google, I also tried Chrome. And at least at first sight it didn't seem any much better than FF.¹

Usually someone else does this kind of complaining (more profound than I could ever do) before me and I feel better just by reading it. Since I've never read any complaints of this kind,I had to do it myself now Please don't eat me alive for being a bit superficial or anything^^

¹I also like the lightweights but FF does all the complex stuff for me.

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Anikom15 · 2010-01-21 23:27:20

The end is near.

doorknob60 · 2010-01-22 05:00:36

Works in Chromium, not Firefox. Oh well. I'm more concerned about the new Flash video player that the resolution changer doesn't work in Firefox, but does in Chromium Not switching back, sorry Google, I want my extensions

whiteychs · 2010-01-22 05:08:55

Not switching back, sorry Google, I want my extensions

I believe Chromium can use Chrome's extensions.

na12 · 2010-01-22 08:53:40

Firefox 3.6 is out with html5 support.

Rasi · 2010-01-22 09:14:32

na12 wrote:

Firefox 3.6 is out with html5 support.

...which has no h264 support

guisacouto · 2010-01-22 14:30:18

sorry for the offtopic, but why isnt 3.6 already in the extra repos?

regards

Pierre · 2010-01-22 14:31:11

Vimeo has started to support html5 video, too. Of course with h264. And for now it's probably the most sane solution. They don't need to re-encode everything; the flashplayer and th browsers can use the same video files this way; and afaik flash does not support ogg.

I wonder why Mozilla did not make it a compile time option or simply use ffmpeg and let the users decide which codecs can be used. Or provide an optional plugin or something similar.

winch · 2010-01-22 15:27:07

None of these sites that are starting to use the <video> tag are ditching their flash support. Mozilla isn't really losing anything at the moment by sticking with ogg. If it becomes obvious h264 support will be a necessity in the future I'm sure Mozilla will start working towards a solution.

flamelab · 2010-01-22 15:49:28

Pierre wrote:

Vimeo has started to support html5 video, too. Of course with h264. And for now it's probably the most sane solution. They don't need to re-encode everything; the flashplayer and th browsers can use the same video files this way; and afaik flash does not support ogg.
I wonder why Mozilla did not make it a compile time option or simply use ffmpeg and let the users decide which codecs can be used. Or provide an optional plugin or something similar.

That one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422540 can be interesting.

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