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#1 2010-01-28 14:42:15

whacath
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Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

When i did pacman -Syu today it give me this line:

$ sudo pacman -Syu
Password: 
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers? [Y/n]

What to do? should i press y or should i press n? Is borking about to happen? tongue

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#2 2010-01-28 14:43:31

tvale
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Well I replaced. I looked up for kernel-headers in the repositories and it's gone. So I suppose it was renamed?

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#3 2010-01-28 14:47:52

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

tvale wrote:

So I suppose it was renamed?

indeed.

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#4 2010-01-28 14:49:02

whacath
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

I found this on google: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17655 so maybe you are correct, smile

Last edited by whacath (2010-01-28 14:53:17)

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#5 2010-01-28 14:49:50

Allan
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Exactly.

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#6 2010-01-28 14:54:50

whacath
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Its so nice when we all agree! smile

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#7 2010-01-28 15:15:00

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

From reading the bug report, it sounds like a good idea.

However, it would have been nice to post a notice on the front page about the change.  Renaming a significant core package seems important enough to let users know the rationale and consequences of the change.

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#8 2010-01-28 15:22:07

Allan
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Nah...  notices are for wimps.

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#9 2010-01-28 15:25:05

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Join arch-dev-public tongue


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#10 2010-01-28 16:05:36

whacath
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

samjh wrote:

From reading the bug report, it sounds like a good idea.

However, it would have been nice to post a notice on the front page about the change.  Renaming a significant core package seems important enough to let users know the rationale and consequences of the change.

See this post as a notice! smile

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#11 2010-01-28 17:55:49

Bedtimes
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

This scared me, but I'm glad the required information was online. It struck me as the kind of thing that could seriously have messed up my system if it hadn't been a planned change.

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#12 2010-01-28 18:02:46

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

pacman asking you to replace the package pretty much tells you that it got renamed.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong but I didn't even blink or give it a second's thought.


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#13 2010-01-28 18:28:14

dhave
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

moljac024 wrote:

pacman asking you to replace the package pretty much tells you that it got renamed.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong but I didn't even blink or give it a second's thought.

I used to feel that way, but now I've become more cautious. I've been searching for mention of a changeover to "linux-api-headers" before accepting the proposed change. So far I haven't seen anything on the Arch site start page. However, having read this post and seeing some official endorsements, I know that I can now proceed without worrying.

Still, this raises a question: Can a change proposed by pacman be considered authoritative?

Thanks, folks.


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#14 2010-01-28 18:41:29

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

dhave wrote:

Still, this raises a question: Can a change proposed by pacman be considered authoritative?

Thanks, folks.

If you have testing repo enabled  prolly not.... Once it drops from testing I would think yes.


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#15 2010-01-28 18:42:51

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Just curious...
kernel26, kernel26-headers and kernel26-firmware are all 2.6.32.6, but linux-api-headers is 2.6.32.5-2
As a conservative upgrader, I wouldn't want a minor version mismatch on something as critical as the kernel. So, should I wait for linux-api-headers-2.6.32.6?

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#16 2010-01-28 18:50:30

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

rdsubhas wrote:

Just curious...
kernel26, kernel26-headers and kernel26-firmware are all 2.6.32.6, but linux-api-headers is 2.6.32.5-2
As a conservative upgrader, I wouldn't want a minor version mismatch on something as critical as the kernel. So, should I wait for linux-api-headers-2.6.32.6?

it was especially renamed just because it was confusing. the version doesn't matter.


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#17 2010-01-28 22:44:32

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

so? should i press Y or N? as far as i've understood from this thread and http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17655 i should press Y

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#18 2010-01-28 22:58:39

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Close your eyes and press enter. Just remember: Allan broke it.


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#19 2010-01-29 01:14:51

Allan
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

rdsubhas wrote:

Just curious...
kernel26, kernel26-headers and kernel26-firmware are all 2.6.32.6, but linux-api-headers is 2.6.32.5-2
As a conservative upgrader, I wouldn't want a minor version mismatch on something as critical as the kernel. So, should I wait for linux-api-headers-2.6.32.6?

linux-api-headers has nothing to do with the kernel.  It is part of the toolchain.

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#20 2010-01-29 01:20:34

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Allan wrote:
rdsubhas wrote:

Just curious...
kernel26, kernel26-headers and kernel26-firmware are all 2.6.32.6, but linux-api-headers is 2.6.32.5-2
As a conservative upgrader, I wouldn't want a minor version mismatch on something as critical as the kernel. So, should I wait for linux-api-headers-2.6.32.6?

linux-api-headers has nothing to do with the kernel.  It is part of the toolchain.

Which is helpful, but probably greek to at least some of those Arch users who didn't already know this was coming smile.


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#21 2010-01-29 01:32:01

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

For those, whom I am included in.

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#22 2010-01-29 15:38:22

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

sHyLoCk wrote:

Join arch-dev-public tongue

Ding ding!

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#23 2010-02-03 18:00:33

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Did anyone have any problems with pressing 'Y' on this? Did it work? Did it tank?


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#24 2010-02-03 20:52:10

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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

12o wrote:

Did anyone have any problems with pressing 'Y' on this? Did it work? Did it tank?

When I pressed "Y", my credit card was immediately charged $5,000 US. I'm working with the credit card company right now to try to recover at least some of the cash. cool


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#25 2010-02-03 21:01:16

dhave
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Re: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers?

Sorry, 12o. I couldn't resist.

In truth, I didn't have the least problem after agreeing to accept the package replacement.


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