Building new Sys. Will arch be ok on this....

Jabb3r · 2010-02-08 10:09:57

Also do you reccomend 32 or 64bit version

Motherboatd: Gaigabyte UD7
CPU: i7 920
RAM: 6GB, will be 12GB later on in the year
GPU: Asus 8800GT

Cheers.

Firepower · 2010-02-08 10:35:13

64 bit version, definitely, with that amount of RAM. And yes, Arch will work on the main hardware. You gotta check the other stuff like the internet adapter (if you use wireless), though, but if the minor hardware are compatible, yeah, it will work most probably.

flamelab · 2010-02-08 11:06:10

It will be better than OK.

64bit of course, there are no problems.

DeeCodeUh · 2010-02-08 15:10:00

I personally recommend getting ATI instead of NVIDIA, because of their terrible driver support in the past...
I have a GTS 250, which is a step up from an 8800, and using any terminal emulator is just painful.
I just have to wonder how a graphics card that can power crysis on ultra settings has trouble doing something as stupid as drawing text!

jowilkin · 2010-02-08 15:13:58

I personally recommend getting NVidia instead of ATI. The ATI driver is in sad sad shape right now while the Nvidia driver works very well.

SemiBz · 2010-02-08 17:14:01

jowilkin wrote:

I personally recommend getting NVidia instead of ATI. The ATI driver is in sad sad shape right now while the Nvidia driver works very well.

Exactly. Have been messing around with my *old* ATI card for a while now - it's not worth your time and effort

dcc24 · 2010-02-08 17:29:59

Also a small warning about the i7 CPU; lm_sensors cannot detect any sensors regarding CPU temperature. It's not yet supported and if CPU monitoring matters to you (it might not) you'll be better off with a quad core Qxxxxx.

wahi · 2010-02-08 17:57:18

the asus 8800 GT *is* an nvidia card.. isn't it? and i have never tried the opensource drivers for it, but the drivers released by nvidia seem to work well enough.

graysky · 2010-02-08 20:23:45

+1 for ati sucking. You can't go wrong with nvidia and yes the 8800gt is an nvidia card.

graysky · 2010-02-08 20:27:57

dcc24 wrote:

Also a small warning about the i7 CPU; lm_sensors cannot detect any sensors regarding CPU temperature. It's not yet supported and if CPU monitoring matters to you (it might not) you'll be better off with a quad core Qxxxxx.

I believe that is NOT still true. I found a few links that contradict your warning including a changeset from lm-sensors.org. The i7 should definitely be supported provided the system is up-to-date:

http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5563
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=220570
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056681

Last edited by graysky (2010-02-08 20:33:03)

dcc24 · 2010-02-08 20:38:55

graysky wrote:

I believe that is NOT still true. I found a few links that contradict your warning including a changeset from lm-sensors.org. The i7 should definitely be supported provided the system is up-to-date:
http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5563
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=220570
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056681

OK, the Ubuntu link shows a way to make it work for a specific motherboard of a specific brand. It doesn't offer a generic solution. It ends up linking to the Fedora link.

The post at the Fedora forum adds a specific CPU id to sensors-detect script. It's not a generic way providing support for Nehalem and Arrandale CPUs.

Same goes for the lm-sensors link, it adds a few, specific CPU ids to the script.

Of course, I might be totally wrong here, please correct me if that's the case.

Btw, I have access to two machines, one with i7 720M the other one with i3 330M. lm-sensors cannot detect any sensors in either of them.

Last edited by dcc24 (2010-02-08 20:40:35)

graysky · 2010-02-08 20:50:17

@dcc24 - I dunno for sure. Just what I unearthed with 2 min of googling.

bungow · 2010-02-08 22:58:44

I have:
Motherboard: Gaigabyte EX58-UD5P, CPU: i7 920, RAM: 6GB, GPU: ATI 4870HD

The ATI drivers really suck, you're right with nvidia.
lmsensors works fine for my, I can get all data from /sys/devices/platform/it87.656/ out of box.

Of course your choice is x86_64

Last edited by bungow (2010-02-08 23:01:52)

graysky · 2010-02-08 23:07:05

@bungow - glad to hear i7 for you is working... I assume that sensors is reading /sys/devices/platform/it87.656/whatever right? What about core temps?

Jabb3r · 2010-02-09 11:30:03

Sorry guys. Had internet probs yesterday. I'll be runnin the net direct to the onboard RJ45. The 8800GT is the only part that aint new that I used to use on an ubuntu setup so was hopin it'd be ok. Afaik ATI is fickle with linux.

Not pld with 64bit arch so that'll be interestin to see how that goes but that ubuntu sys was 64bit on dual xeons so I've had some experience with it.

Glad things should be gravy. Just gotta get me head around all the bios settings now, lol

Last edited by Jabb3r (2010-02-09 11:30:41)

dcc24 · 2010-02-09 12:00:46

As for the temperature monitoring, a QST SDK is needed for supporting the ICH8 southbridge. The OpenAMT project is working on that (http://www.openamt.org/), but there doesn't seem to be much progess.

However, it looks like Intel will be releasing an SDK itself. See: http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/ … hp?t=54851
Maybe after that we will have temperature & voltage monitoring support for all Nehalem and Arrandale chipsets.

bungow · 2010-02-09 12:50:47

graysky wrote:

@bungow - glad to hear i7 for you is working... I assume that sensors is reading /sys/devices/platform/it87.656/whatever right? What about core temps?

it87 directory is created by lmsensors when load the it87 and coretemp driver(sensors-detect) here is my sensors output:

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:      +45.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1:      +46.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0002
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 2:      +42.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0003
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 3:      +45.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0004
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 4:      +45.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0005
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 5:      +46.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0006
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 6:      +42.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

coretemp-isa-0007
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 7:      +45.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)  

it8720-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0:         +1.04 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in1:         +1.52 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in2:         +0.14 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in3:         +3.01 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in4:         +0.45 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in5:         +0.11 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in6:         +0.14 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
in7:         +2.14 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +4.08 V)   
Vbat:        +3.26 V
fan1:       1198 RPM  (min =   10 RPM)
fan2:          0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
fan3:       1125 RPM  (min =   10 RPM)
fan4:          0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
temp1:       +45.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
temp2:       +41.0°C  (low  = -128.0°C, high = +60.0°C)  sensor = thermal diode
temp3:       +51.0°C  (low  = -128.0°C, high = +60.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
cpu0_vid:   +0.000 V

this data can be readed separated in it87 and coretemp directory

Example:
cat /sys/devices/platform/it87.656/temp1_input #global temp
45000

cat /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.2/temp1_input #read core 2 temp
42000

Jabb3r · 2010-02-09 14:04:31

Looks useful. Can things like conky utilise info like that?

That'll be me sys monitor of choice.

thestinger · 2010-02-09 17:58:21

you can add lines like this to conky to make use of the info:

${color0}Core0: ${execpi 10 sensors | grep Core0 | cut --characters 15-16}°C
...
${color0}GPU: ${execpi 20 nvidia-settings -q gpucoretemp | grep arch | cut --characters 39-40}°C

bungow · 2010-02-09 19:29:18

conky have embedded functions to obtain info more easy, like ${platform it87.656 temp1_input}

Jabb3r · 2010-02-10 12:58:36

Thats great I'll tweak my conky file when I get arch 64 up and goin

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