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#1 2010-02-22 22:10:48

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[SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

I don't see these files when i use my default file browser, but when I use my FTP app (filezilla) I see all kinds of files with a trailing '~'. Example: file.html~

Does anyone know what these are? Are they temporary backups? I only see them when I'm in filezilla (along with all my hidden files)

I'd like to know what they are because when I delete a file (via filezilla for example) the other files remain.

I just wanna make sure i'm not leaving junk on my hard drive... roll

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#2 2010-02-22 22:11:42

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

The ~ suffix indicates a backup file. Do you use vim, perchance?

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#3 2010-02-22 22:16:24

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

Yeah I use vim when i'm in console, but in gnome i usually just use gedit.  I only see these files with FileZilla though, as it's showing all hidden files and I can't figure out how to disable it.

Should I just ignore these files?


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#4 2010-02-22 22:17:13

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

Put

set nobackup

in ~/.(g)vimrc. Strange that this is not the default.

As for gedit, perhaps there is something in prefs. You may need to poke around with gconf-editor (?) or suchlike. I have not used gnome in a massively long time.

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#5 2010-02-22 22:21:29

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

i set nobackup in vimrc b/c i find these files clutter up my ls output.

if you're anal like me, you can use something like this to clean up

# first just list them to make sure you don't catch anything important
find ./ -name '*~'

# then, if you're satisfied, up arrow and add delete
find ./ -name '*~' -delete

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#6 2010-02-22 22:31:04

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

oh interesting, so it's vim and gedit that make the files.

I use gedt to make files (html, php, etc), upload them to my site, then immediately delete them, and the ~ files are left behind. Will they be auto-deleted by the system or something eventually?  Or do they stay there indefinitely until I manually delete them?

:scratches-head:

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#7 2010-02-22 22:36:47

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

trusktr wrote:

oh interesting, so it's vim and gedit that make the files.

I use gedt to make files (html, php, etc), upload them to my site, then immediately delete them, and the ~ files are left behind. Will they be auto-deleted by the system or something eventually?  Or do they stay there indefinitely until I manually delete them?

:scratches-head:

I thought they only remain behind if vim is not closed properly. Like if you close the terminal window instead of :wq


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#8 2010-02-22 22:39:13

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

I turned off "Create a backup copy of files before saving" in the gedit options. big_smile I haven't noticed any backup files from vim though, just gedit. smile But still, "will those files be deleted automatically?" is a good question!

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#9 2010-02-22 23:04:46

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

Yeah, Arch's vim doesn't make backups by default.

sand_man wrote:

I thought they only remain behind if vim is not closed properly. Like if you close the terminal window instead of :wq

Perhaps you are thinking of .swp files.


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#10 2010-02-24 10:26:37

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

well apparently the hidden backup files have been deleted sometime between yesterday and today. Arch/linus must have some temporary file log and a shedule to delete temporary files maybe?


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#11 2010-02-24 11:12:39

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

trusktr wrote:

Arch/linus must have some temporary file log and a shedule to delete temporary files maybe?

No it does not...

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#12 2010-02-24 11:15:40

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

Hmmmm... perhaps maybe it was Gnome. I think that might be a better assumption. The files are gone! (which is good smile)


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#13 2010-02-24 19:36:00

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

There is something fishy with this. The system should never automatically delete backup files.


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#14 2010-02-24 22:08:11

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

those files are created by gedit

by default, it makes them when you save something to back up the old version

you can turn them off in preferences --> editor

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#15 2010-02-24 22:45:59

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

So does gedit automatically delete these files maybe? Because i left two of them on there, but they are now gone!

I might just re-enable the backup feature in the options to try and figure what's going on exactly


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#16 2010-02-24 23:10:20

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

They shouldn't be auto deleted. Are you sure that you weren't viewing hidden files, then turned of the viewing hidden files? Can you see those "missing" files if you issue "ls -la" from a terminal?


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#17 2010-02-24 23:33:00

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

i'm sure i didn't delete them, and when I used ls -a i could not see them.
I'll re-enable to option and see what happen!


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#18 2010-02-24 23:39:08

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Re: [SOLVED] I see files with a trailing '~' in my folders: file.html~

Actually, instereingly enough, the command "ls" without the "-a" shows the backup files!
But on my desktop i don't see this backup file. It's not a normal file, but it's not fully hidden as i can see it in command with "ls".

I've deleted the main source file.

I'll be back to notify whether it's auto-deleted or not!


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