If/When Hurd is "released"

Acecero · 2009-12-30 19:12:37

skottish wrote:

zowki wrote:
The day GNU Hurd is released is the day penguins fly.
Errr...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxmpihCjqw

That was good! I can't stop laughing!

btwxt · 2010-02-24 04:32:03

Last week I saw rms give a speech on the state of copyright laws.

Inevitably, during the post-speech question-and-answer session, someone asked him if and when Hurd would ever be released.

His answer, to say the least, wasn't reassuring. At all.

According to him, development has basically ground to a halt and ostensibly Hurd will never see the light of day.

So I guess we're stuck with (in his words) "the thing Torvalds and his pals made" for the foreseeable future.
Unless we suddenly get a hankering for the ol' BSD or development miraculously ignites on Hurd the term GNU/Linux
is here to stay.

Let's face it though, Linux isn't that bad

sand_man · 2010-02-24 04:43:25

Well I'm assuming no one is interested because it would be one hell of a job to try to actually get it to do something, being a micro kernel and all. By the time HURD is ready to be released, we'll probably all be running organic CPUs or something

jceasless · 2010-02-24 08:52:26

I remember seeing a screenshot of GNUStep running on the Hurd from a recent presentation. I wonder if that was a joke, and if not, what kind of hardware profile it runs on.

One potential hail mary for the Hurd would be if they began to target a single hardware profile. The ARM space probably has a lot fewer hardware choices for video for instance. They should choose a platform and focus dev efforts on that. Then they get it stable and the FSF can sell their top-to-bottom Free laptops to raise more funds.

Also, what is 'veingoose' ?

sand_man · 2010-02-24 09:37:32

Are Debian sending much back "upstream" for Hurd? Or are they just using what's already available? I was hoping that Debian taking it on might spark some more development.

n0dix · 2010-02-24 13:42:55

skottish wrote:

zowki wrote:
The day GNU Hurd is released is the day penguins fly.
Errr...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxmpihCjqw

:lol: what can be do with visual effects.

ilembitov · 2010-02-24 14:23:24

Actually, I think that eventually the whole GNU userland will become less significant. Even now we can see more areas where companies start using BSD userland (not necessarily the BSD kernel) in favour of GNU. Google has Linux+BSD Android, Apple people have worked with BSD a lot (not to mention that they actually use NetBSD in some of their products, such as Time Capsule, etc). What next? The main product of GNU, GCC - is likely to face the competition with CLANG/LLVM soon. Strangely enough, there are such weird projects such as Debian/kFreeBSD, but there is no significant project trying to set Linux kernel on top of BSD userland.

AngryKoala · 2010-02-24 15:00:07

If GNU goes away, there can always be an ArchBSD. I'd jump on board real fast. Anyways, Hurd will take over once it is released and becomes wildly popular!

Themaister · 2010-02-24 18:39:28

Is there actually a production ready pure microkernel out there?

wuischke · 2010-02-24 18:56:04

There's of course QNX and there are some L4 variants. I haven't used any L4s, but I follow http://genode.org/ and it's promising.

QNX has a long history, but lacks drivers and software and the user interfaces isn't very pretty.

PJ · 2010-02-24 19:33:17

No, I would rather use Minix. I think the self healing in Minix 3 is quite interesting.

gtklocker · 2010-02-24 19:46:33

If/When Hurd is "released", 99 % of the planet will use ArchHurd.

Primoz · 2010-02-24 21:17:19

Probably no, mostly because of GPLv3. And consequently drivers...
And as someone said it before Minix3 will probably get usable before Hurd does (I don't know I haven't tried ArchHurd yet...)

sand_man · 2010-02-25 00:40:22

The day GNU goes away will be a sad day

Snakeye · 2010-02-25 01:12:41

GNU will never go away, so be happy.

zowki · 2010-02-25 01:13:04

sand_man wrote:

The day GNU goes away will be a sad day

why?

ilembitov · 2010-02-25 11:04:03

sand_man wrote:

The day GNU goes away will be a sad day

As if there were no open source software but GNU)

n0dix · 2010-02-25 13:14:11

Snakeye wrote:

GNU will never go away, so be happy.

i'm happy

moljac024 · 2010-02-25 22:23:14

ilembitov wrote:

sand_man wrote:
The day GNU goes away will be a sad day
As if there were no open source software but GNU)

GNU isn't just software and it isn't just any software. Give GNU the proper respect please

Anikom15 · 2010-02-26 00:43:40

Well I've got to say that GNU really has come a long way. I'm going to make a cute reference to Hurd in the project I'm working on, in hopes it will at least give tribute to the few developers who work on it.

Acecero · 2010-02-26 04:57:55

sand_man wrote:

The day GNU goes away will be a sad day

Yeah, especially that will happen on the same day when open source software becomes extinct.

Runiq · 2010-02-26 09:28:55

Acecero wrote:

sand_man wrote:
The day GNU goes away will be a sad day
Yeah, especially that will happen on the same day when open source software becomes extinct.

Which is precisely the day when Duke Nukem forever is released.

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