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#901 2010-02-28 12:40:54

Perry3D
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

b4283 wrote:

question:
i got very dark screens in games like quake3 and openarena, and poor performances too.
and quake live have all the "tile-or-block-like" textures.

already have the latest driver from repo, what more can i do to help this?

the hardware is a ATI HD3200 (780g IGP)

Quakelive has a problem with the new libpng/libjpeg. You can search the forum for this.
Are you using kms?

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#902 2010-02-28 12:55:25

b4283
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Perry3D wrote:

Quakelive has a problem with the new libpng/libjpeg. You can search the forum for this.
Are you using kms?

so i see, no wonder Quake Live is only messy recently.

i think i'm using it, because i saw the boot screen refreshed when loading the module hook.
udev must have loaded it automatically.
but it won't matter i guess, because the problem has continued from 2.6.32, and 32 has a default of disabling KMS.

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#903 2010-02-28 14:04:30

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

hey people

Im just interested in your Card model, if your using git or repo and what your glxgears fps is

See at the moment, people are reporting seeds all over the shop.. For example I have a HD4630 in my laptop. I get 330fps in glxgears. I also have some games refusing to load. My cousin has HD2640 and most things work well he gets 1100fps in glxgears, he is running all stock (no kms) where as I'm using recently built git code.  Far as I knew both of these cards use the R600/R700 code.. But it would apear that the R600 is more feature complete than the 700?


So yeah.. what you running and what you get?

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#904 2010-02-28 14:46:51

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

This is not comparable. There is a huge difference between KMS and UMS. KMS provides DRI2, OpenGl 2.0 and tear free opengl. UMS does not, but is a lot faster (at the moment).

With a HD4850, UMS, 2.6.33 and the a git snapshot of the rest i get 3k fps.

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#905 2010-02-28 14:47:02

brendan
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

~3400fps on my HD4850 1GB with Kernel 2.6.33 running radeon no KMS

@perry3d - funny we posted exactly the same info ;-)

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#906 2010-02-28 14:56:29

lman
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

~2900 fps, hd 4850 512 MB with KMS, compiz running, using perry3D's repo at the moment

Edit: @perry3D I'm not experiencing any slowdowns, compiz running very smoothly and no tearing...

Last edited by lman (2010-02-28 15:01:21)

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#907 2010-02-28 15:03:55

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

lman wrote:

~2900 fps, hd 4850 512 MB with KMS, compiz running, using perry3D's repo at the moment

Edit: @perry3D I'm not experiencing any slowdowns, compiz running very smoothly and no tearing...

That's strange. Compiz and KMS is also very smooth on my PC. But Kwin seems to have some problems with KMS.

/edit:
With UMS:
- Compiz is fine
- Kwin: no problems
- Nexuiz: no problems
- Warsow: no problems
- QuakeLive (LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libpng12.so" /usr/bin/firefox www.quakelive.com): looks good, but is unplayable. This worked some time ago sad

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#908 2010-02-28 17:14:27

gtklocker
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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

What's UMS, men ?

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#909 2010-02-28 18:01:14

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

KMS: mode setting in kernel space
UMS: mode setting in user space (the "old" way).

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#910 2010-02-28 23:23:53

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Perry3D wrote:

This is not comparable. There is a huge difference between KMS and UMS. KMS provides DRI2, OpenGl 2.0 and tear free opengl. UMS does not, but is a lot faster (at the moment).

With a HD4850, UMS, 2.6.33 and the a git snapshot of the rest i get 3k fps.

I know this.
I'm interested in seeing if there are changes i can make to my setup to see if i can speed it up.. 300fps seems really slow considering an older slower card is posting 4x's my speed and your posting 10x's

300fps just seems WAY too slow

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#911 2010-03-01 00:49:14

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

insanemal wrote:
Perry3D wrote:

This is not comparable. There is a huge difference between KMS and UMS. KMS provides DRI2, OpenGl 2.0 and tear free opengl. UMS does not, but is a lot faster (at the moment).

With a HD4850, UMS, 2.6.33 and the a git snapshot of the rest i get 3k fps.

I know this.
I'm interested in seeing if there are changes i can make to my setup to see if i can speed it up.. 300fps seems really slow considering an older slower card is posting 4x's my speed and your posting 10x's

300fps just seems WAY too slow

Have you given the phoronix test suite a go?

I was surprised at the results in all but the Nexuis test.  Everything else looked great & even though there was plenty of fast action & players involved the HD2600pro never skipped a beat.

These were my (poorly named 1st.phoronix.test; I didn't know they could/would go public when I named it) test results, the page gives you access to info' about the PTS & the download page:

http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/i … 26987-2834

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I used to be surprised that I was still surprised by my own stupidity, finding it strangely refreshing.
Well, now I don't find it refreshing.
I'm over it!

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#912 2010-03-01 01:46:10

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

I have problem with KMS. It seems kernel don't loads the video driver and the xorg anf gl are slow
dmesg gives:
[drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
<3>00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff 7f ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................

radeon 0000:02:00.0: VGA-1: EDID invalid.
[drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
<3>00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff 7f ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................

radeon 0000:02:00.0: VGA-1: EDID invalid.
[drm:radeon_vga_detect] *ERROR* VGA-1: probed a monitor but no|invalid EDID
[drm:edid_is_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
<3>00 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff 7f ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
<3>ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff  ................
My video card is Radeon x550. Is r300 supported by KMS?

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#913 2010-03-01 03:11:35

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Here:

http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

It says that KMS is mostly done for all of the ATi GPU series on the list.

I used to be surprised that I was still surprised by my own stupidity, finding it strangely refreshing.
Well, now I don't find it refreshing.
I'm over it!

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#914 2010-03-01 08:36:12

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Major Linux 2.6.34 Kernel GPU DRM Updates
The pull request is send to Linus (that includes initial power management).
Great news big_smile

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#915 2010-03-01 09:03:18

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

will you be updating your git repository to 2.6.34 series?

Acer Aspire V5-573P Antergos KDE

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#916 2010-03-01 12:37:28

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

So anyway.. I did some testing of UMS. 2100 fps and lots of other things are running more stable.. EXCEPT gnome-shell
it runs like ass had to move back to gnome-panel/compiz anyway interesting things.

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#917 2010-03-01 21:11:50

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

venky80 wrote:

will you be updating your git repository to 2.6.34 series?

Of course, as soon as there are some relevant commits.

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#918 2010-03-02 02:31:11

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

For the interested... Gnome-shell was solely responsible for my 300fps frame rates. Tested KMS without shell and my FPS was around 1000fps.  So currently avoiding shell on the open source ATI stack is not a bad idea.

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#919 2010-03-05 04:59:59

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Perry3D:

In Linus Torvalds' kernel git tree, branch 'drm-linus' of git://git./linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6 has been merged.
See:http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=03a2c4d76c9e99b80d74ab8a4f344e135a5ae44b

Many recent kernel changes in the drm-next tree now goes into mainline kernel.
Maybe you can update your kernel-git package:-)

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#920 2010-03-05 06:59:51

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Thanks for the info. I will update it as soon as i have some time. wink

/edit: compile errors with the staging drivers. sad I disable them.
OK, everything compiles fine without the staging drivers. The new kernel is in the repo. Happy testing cool

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#921 2010-03-05 09:07:31

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

It work's. Unfortunately no new sensor was detected for my graphics card (sensors-detect) sad. Should I change some configuration files? or is it because I'm using KMS?
Also if I enable dynpm compiz sometimes stops for a moment... probably while the clocks are adjusted.

Edit: and a slight improvement with glxgears +100/200 FPS (now ~3000) with hd4850 and compiz

Last edited by lman (2010-03-05 09:08:48)

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#922 2010-03-05 14:18:16

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

lman wrote:

It work's. Unfortunately no new sensor was detected for my graphics card (sensors-detect) sad. Should I change some configuration files? or is it because I'm using KMS?

Is there support for gpu sensors in 2.6.34? Maybe i need to modify the config file.

lman wrote:

Edit: and a slight improvement with glxgears +100/200 FPS (now ~3000) with hd4850 and compiz

I also noticed a little speed up :-)

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#923 2010-03-05 19:05:34

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Perry3D wrote:

Is there support for gpu sensors in 2.6.34? Maybe i need to modify the config file.

I just thought that with power management support will come temperature monitoring, too. Guess I was wrong.
Also while running sensors-detect a few new adapters appeared, but no sensor was detected sad

Next adapter: Radeon internal i2c bit bus HDMI (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 

Next adapter: Radeon i2c HDMI (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 

Next adapter: Radeon internal i2c bit bus VGA (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 

Next adapter: Radeon i2c VGA (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 

Next adapter: Radeon internal i2c bit bus DVI (i2c-4)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
Client found at address 0x49
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75'...                No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS75'...                  No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM77'...                No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1621/DS1631'...         No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM73'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM92'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM76'...                No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6633/MAX6634/MAX6635'...              No
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 No
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'...                                Yes
    (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

Next adapter: Radeon i2c DVI (i2c-5)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): 
Client found at address 0x49
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM75'...                No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS75'...                  No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM77'...                No
Probing for `Dallas Semiconductor DS1621/DS1631'...         No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM73'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM92'...                No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM76'...                No
Probing for `Maxim MAX6633/MAX6634/MAX6635'...              No
Client found at address 0x50
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 No
Probing for `EDID EEPROM'...                                Yes
    (confidence 8, not a hardware monitoring chip)

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#924 2010-03-06 22:16:55

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Is powersaving enabled in kernel26-git ? smile

And if it is, how can it function ?

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#925 2010-03-07 13:37:44

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Re: Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

Can you take a look at
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=92686
please?

lman wrote:

~2900 fps, hd 4850 512 MB with KMS, compiz running, using perry3D's repo at the moment

Edit: @perry3D I'm not experiencing any slowdowns, compiz running very smoothly and no tearing...

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