problem with X -config (freeze + black screen)

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-27 04:56:44

Hi, everyone. I'm a newbie in linux, so dont punch me .
I was following the beginners guide & after X -config /root/xorg.conf.new got freeze + blackscreen (alt + ctrl + bckspc or alt + Fn dont works).
I have created /X11/xorg.conf & can start X server, but X -config /root/xorg.conf.new or /etc/X11/xorg.conf gives black screen (with signal).
My VGA is HD3850.
Any ideas how i can fix it?
Here is my xorg.conf

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
            Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice "Razer" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" 
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Razer"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Name" "Razer Lachesis Optical Mouse"
    Option "CorePointer"
    Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option "Buttons" "9"
    Option "Resolution" "1250"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 8 9"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
    Option "SampleRate" "1000"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier "Keyboard0"
    Driver "keyboard"
    Option "CoreKeyboard"
    Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option "XkbModel" "microsoftmult"
    Option "Xkblayout" "us,ru"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load    "glx"
    Load    "dri"
    Load    "drm"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    HorizSync    31.0 - 81.0
    VertRefresh  56.0 - 75.0
    Option        "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "radeonhd"
    VendorName  "ATI Technologies Inc"
    BoardName   "RV670PRO [Radeon HD 3850]"
    Option    "AccelMethod" "exa"
    Option    "DRI" "on"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth     24
    Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option "RENDER" "enable"
    Option "DAMAGE" "enable"
    Option "Composite" "enable"
EndSection

/var/log/Xorg.0.log contain no errors or warnings (except ACPI & font paths)
Thx 4 help.

P.S Can add log if it helps

P.P.S Its one of my xorg.conf files, also i've used variant 4 xf86-video-ati

Last edited by InsaneDevice (2010-02-27 06:32:32)

flamelab · 2010-02-27 05:00:56

Follow these steps:

1)(Re)install xorg and xorg-input-drivers groups. Τhen xf86-video-ati, mesa, libgl, ati-dri.
2)Delete your xorg.conf. Completely.
3)Add this in your xorg.conf (optional)

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "My Graphics Card"
    Driver        "radeon"
EndSection

Only.
4)Make sure HAL is running. Restart it now.
5)Restart Xorg.
6)If you don't have display, reboot.

I think that you must read the ATi wiki page on wiki.archlinux.org

Last edited by flamelab (2010-02-27 05:22:30)

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-27 05:46:38

Thanks for quick answer.
Yeah, i have read the wiki & tried alot variants of xorg.conf with video-ati & video-radeonhd driver plus re-installed xorg and i still have this problem.

Kaeso · 2010-02-27 05:55:46

Have you tried it without using a xorg.conf at all? I have an ATI HD3400 and it seems to work best that way, with xf86-video-ati.

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-27 06:12:56

Yes, ive tried. As i said, i can start x server (startx command) & it works. But im following the guide & as i understood i must have working xorg.conf... Isnt it?
So im little confused: skip this & go on or...?

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-27 15:34:56

Mmm... so? Any ideas?
Just tell me then will this (unworking xorg.conf) be a problem in future, if i'll skip this at now.

Last edited by InsaneDevice (2010-02-27 15:35:38)

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-28 02:39:24

So, where is all geeks?

flamelab · 2010-02-28 03:06:54

You are doing something wrong. Are you REALLY sure that you've done what I wrote above, step to step ?

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-28 14:05:58

flamelab wrote:

You are doing something wrong. Are you REALLY sure that you've done what I wrote above, step to step ?

Yes, im sure.
1. pacman -R xorg xorg-input drivers xf86-video-ati
2. pacman -R libgl mesa
3 pacman -R ati-dri
4. removing /etc/X11 & /root/xorg.conf.new.
5. installin all this again
6. /etc/rc.d/hal restart

Xorg -configure ---> X -config /root/xorg.conf.new ---> black screen

flamelab · 2010-02-28 18:10:37

InsaneDevice wrote:

flamelab wrote:
You are doing something wrong. Are you REALLY sure that you've done what I wrote above, step to step ?
Yes, im sure.
1. pacman -R xorg xorg-input drivers xf86-video-ati
2. pacman -R libgl mesa
3 pacman -R ati-dri
4. removing /etc/X11 & /root/xorg.conf.new.
5. installin all this again
6. /etc/rc.d/hal restart
Xorg -configure ---> X -config /root/xorg.conf.new ---> black screen

I knew you did something wrong.
(I copy the steps from above)
1)(Re)install xorg and xorg-input-drivers groups. Τhen xf86-video-ati, mesa, libgl, ati-dri.
2)Delete your xorg.conf. Completely.
3)Add this in your xorg.conf (optional)

Section "Device"
Identifier "My Graphics Card"
Driver "radeon"
EndSection
Only.
4)Make sure HAL is running. Restart it now.
5)Restart Xorg.
6)If you don't have display, reboot.

No xorg -configure or such things.

And a tip: Don't remove and reinstall packages. Only reinstall them again (with pacman -S <package>, no pacman -R <package> and then pacman -S <package> )

Last edited by flamelab (2010-02-28 18:12:22)

InsaneDevice · 2010-02-28 22:54:52

Ок, i did it. But, as i thought it doesn't matter. It seems like problem in somewhere else
Here is step-by-step of my actions.
1. rm /etc/xorg.conf
2. pacman -S xorg xorg-input-drivers xf86-video-ati mesa libgl ati-dri
3. nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ----> with your variant of device section
4. /etc/rc.d/hal restart
5. X -config /etc/xorg.conf ---> black screen (arghhh... damn, ill kill you (im about pc) )
6. reset
7. X -config /etc/xorg.conf ---> black screen .... im crying... really

P.S. Sorry if im an annoying
OffTopic: I hate ati, this is my 1st ATI card & think the last. Under ubuntu compiz work slooooooow with frglx on maximize|minimize|restore window & after using patch from the web to fix this u will got the same problem.

var/log/ contain 1 warning
(WW) DRI init changed memory map adjusting...
RadeonRestoreMemMapRegisters():

Last edited by InsaneDevice (2010-02-28 22:58:54)

flamelab · 2010-03-01 01:20:19

OK, I think that your english is not that good

Read what I've wrote:

No xorg -configure or such things.

No.

Leave the "Device" section I gave you, alone or NO xorg.conf.

Only these few lines in there.

No X -config, No.

Last edited by flamelab (2010-03-01 01:21:00)

InsaneDevice · 2010-03-01 05:43:15

My english is fine (i read well at least) .
At first message i said

I have created /X11/xorg.conf & can start X server...

I =can= start x server --- its mean that startx works fine & i can see 3 windows with clock . And if you mean that i dont want use x -config, then for what all this manipulations with reinstalling was?

Besides "Xorg -configure" & "x -config /etc/xorg.conf" are different things for me, because one create the basic config, while second test this config. So i thought you mean that i have to create it from scratch without using any commands

... Damn.. i just have read english & russian beginner guides. Russian says: "after installing xorg u have to create conf file, using Xorg -configure, then test it with command X -config /root/xorg.conf.new & IF IT WORK - copy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I didnt find that in english version .

Well, thank you for your patient & help . I think, that problem is solved (i think - say me if i wrong)

But i still want to know, why x -config /etc/xorg.conf give me that black screen + freeze, so if anybody knows - plz, message me.

Last edited by InsaneDevice (2010-03-01 07:36:42)

CountDuckula · 2010-03-01 21:20:47

Just a thought, have you installed the evdev driver

pacman -S xf86-input-evdev

Also, is dbus installed?

pacman -S dbus

and make sure that hal and dbus are in the daemons section of the /etc/rc.conf file so it looks similar to this,

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus hal network netfs)

at this point i would restart your machine, login and issue the following commands,

X -configure
cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11.xorg.conf

then issue a startx and see what happens...

I was banging my head against the wall recently with a similar issue too, hope this helps.

InsaneDevice · 2010-03-02 00:10:02

Just a thought, have you installed the evdev driver Also, is dbus installed

Yep, they are installed. I can say even more, all works fine (i also just have installed kde), except this

x -config

.
Strange situation really. I just hope that this will not give me any possible problems in future.

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