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#26 2010-03-08 03:44:27

Mektub
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From: Lisbon /Portugal
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

scrawler wrote:

this has also mangled icewm.  too bad I recently cleared my cache...

scrawler,

you have the old packages at

http://schlunix.org/archlinux/

in particular:

http://schlunix.org/archlinux/extra/os/ … pkg.tar.gz

Mektub


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#27 2010-03-08 04:04:31

damipereira
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

What is xorg 1.7.5.901 (An RC) doing in a stable repo like extra shouldn't it be in testing? it is not stable and it's even giving problems.Is it supposed to be stable?

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#28 2010-03-08 08:00:37

b4d
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Hi, can anybody upload old xorg mentioned upper in the topic. Thanks

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#29 2010-03-08 08:22:19

bangkok_manouel
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

b4d wrote:

Hi, can anybody upload old xorg mentioned upper in the topic. Thanks

is it the 2nd link of the second post above yours that you are looking for ?

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#30 2010-03-08 08:24:15

kissandra79
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

b4d wrote:

Hi, can anybody upload old xorg mentioned upper in the topic. Thanks

Its there in your var/cache/pacman/pkg/ folder.

Just run pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/xorg-server-1.7.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

Thats the version that came out just before the RC version of xorg

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#31 2010-03-08 08:26:27

b4d
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

bangkok_manouel: Yeah, I pretty much feel plain stupid right now, I didn't saw that topic has two pages smile

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#32 2010-03-08 10:17:16

bgalakazam
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

At least bug was filed, hopefully it gets resolved soon. smile

For me Flubox = lock up, Openbox = OK.

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#33 2010-03-08 11:05:36

scrawler
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Thank you, Mektub.  I downgraded and am back in action.

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#34 2010-03-08 12:43:14

goran'agar
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

kissandra79 wrote:

If it is a problem with fluxbox then I am not surprised that it is acting up. The last time fluxbox had an update was in september 2008. And that might be one of the reasons. On the other hand openbox, had an update as recently as february 2010. Seems like its time to move away from fluxbox... unfortunately.

But before I take the plunge, can anyone else confirm if it is happening with any other window manager or DE?

So so far,

xorg-server 1.7.5.901-1 HATES fluxbox 1.1.1-1
xorg-server 1.7.5.901-1 LOVES openbox

Anyone else, care to add more love,hate relationships? : )

xorg-server 1.7.5.901-1 LOVES fvwm

:-)


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#35 2010-03-08 12:58:57

kissandra79
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

b4d wrote:

bangkok_manouel: Yeah, I pretty much feel plain stupid right now, I didn't saw that topic has two pages smile

Happens to the best of us

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#36 2010-03-08 16:50:21

Isildur
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Anyone any idea how long it will take for an official solution(via normal pacman -Syu)?

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#37 2010-03-08 17:42:20

Baraclese
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

I had to downgrade too (fluxbox user here)

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#38 2010-03-08 18:03:21

wriggary
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

damipereira wrote:

What is xorg 1.7.5.901 (An RC) doing in a stable repo like extra shouldn't it be in testing? it is not stable and it's even giving problems.Is it supposed to be stable?

Thats just the arch way.  Latest and greatest.  There is no stable.  You can at any time select a stable release of xorg-server by installing the package file (in my case, I stick with xorg-server-1.6.3.901-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz) with pacman -U pkgfile and then uncomment and add it to the IgnorePkg=  line in /etc/pacman.conf

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#39 2010-03-08 18:07:02

wriggary
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Isildur wrote:

Anyone any idea how long it will take for an official solution(via normal pacman -Syu)?

You can have it fixed right now by bumping your xorg-server back a version (see previous post) and also there is a whole page on the wiki about downgrading packages.

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#40 2010-03-08 19:17:52

kissandra79
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

wriggary wrote:
Isildur wrote:

Anyone any idea how long it will take for an official solution(via normal pacman -Syu)?

You can have it fixed right now by bumping your xorg-server back a version (see previous post) and also there is a whole page on the wiki about downgrading packages.

I think he actually meant, how long it would take before upgrading to the newest, greatest and latest version of xorg-server wouldn't be a problem for those using a WM like fluxbox and a few others..

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#41 2010-03-08 19:50:43

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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

I can confirm the same problem in Fedora, and it is fixed by downgrading Fedora's xorg-server packages to 1.7.1 from 1.7.5

Thanks to sonoran on the Fedora forums, i came across this thread.

I can also confirm that it was only a problem with fluxbox, but that openbox worked well.  I am using the development version of fluxbox, 1.1.1, which as was pointed out, hasn't been updated in two  years.  Sigh, I've been using it forever, but maybe it is time to start migrating away.  <sniffle>.

Last edited by scottro (2010-03-08 19:55:05)

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#42 2010-03-08 20:26:45

Coacher
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

scottro wrote:

I can confirm the same problem in Fedora, and it is fixed by downgrading Fedora's xorg-server packages to 1.7.1 from 1.7.5

Interesting does gentoo users have such problem?))
Its time to try gentoo.

#43 2010-03-08 21:29:17

harryNID
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

A patch for this was submitted in my bug report and so far it seems to be working. I can happily say I am now running the new version of xorg just peachy. If you would like to test the patch yourself (and know how to compile packages via abs) then give it a try.

Warning this patch was submitted but has not been tested yet (as far as I know) so try it at your own risk!

First get the patch here:
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18598?pr … org-server
Copy xorg-server from abs/extra to your build directory. Move the patch to that directory and issue this inside the xorg directory:

patch -p2 < xorg-server.patch

Build
Enjoy

P.S.
Thanks Gerardo for the patch big_smile

Last edited by harryNID (2010-03-08 21:30:41)


In solving a problem of this sort, the grand thing is to be able to reason backward. That is a very useful accomplishment, and a very easy one, but people do not practice it much. In the everyday affairs of life it is more useful to reason forward, and so the other comes to be neglected. There are fifty who can reason synthetically for one who can reason analytically.  --Sherlock Holmes

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#44 2010-03-08 22:49:21

Spot
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

I also got problems with ne newest version of xorg, so i downgraded to 1.7.5-1-i686 and now fluxbox and me are happy again smile

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#45 2010-03-09 02:34:25

egan
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Does anyone know if this effects xmonad?

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#46 2010-03-09 03:03:04

scottro
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Now I do notice that I don't have the same problem in Fedora rawhide on an i686 install.   It's running a higher version, 1.7.99.901.6 (probably customized for Fedora).   I don't know if I'm just lucky on this one, or if the later versions of xorg server have already fixed it.

(As mentioned in my earlier post, I have the identical problem on Fedora 12, which was fixed by downgrading from 1.7.5 something to 1.7.1 something.


EDIT

ARGH--I just updated rawhide and now xorg-server is at 1.7.99.901-10 and broken. I'm now guessing that these version numbers are a bit off (also, there were dates and the previous xorg server was from February while this one is from yesterday.)

Oh snap.

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#47 2010-03-09 06:09:54

bandito
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Xorg-server package has been updated (xorg-server 1.7.5.901-2) and the issue is fixed (on pekwm).

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#48 2010-03-09 08:51:39

kissandra79
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Unfortunately, the problem just got worse with the new xorg-server 1.7.5.901-2 and fluxbox 1.1.1. The mouse and keyboard are not working at all. I had to do switch off and switch on the computer again : (

Maybe this is an issue with fluxbox alone. Could anyone tell me if openbox is playing well with xorg-server 1.7.5.901-2? Cos, if it is, I think it is time to bed adieus and be done with fluxbox .. and install openbox.

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#49 2010-03-09 08:54:19

flamelab
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Guys, upgrade. Xorg-server has been patched to work with the *box'es.

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#50 2010-03-09 09:05:20

kissandra79
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Re: Big Xorg-server problem :(

Can anyone using Fluxbox confirm if it is playing well with xorg-server 1.7.5.901-2? On my box xorg-server 1.7.5.901-2 totally hates fluxbox. The keyboard and mouse are not working at all sad And what about openbox 3.4? Does it have any problems with xorg-server 1.7.5.901-2?

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