The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

PaulStogov · 2010-03-25 14:33:46

Hi everyone!

Second day on catalyst-test 10.4-444 (using Toshiba A200 with HD2600, kernel 2.6.32.10-1, xorg-server 1.7.5.902-1).
First of all - it works! I mean 1.7.5 can deal with fglrx 10.4 and it's perfect.
Second - I can't believe that I finally become able to switch users in X.org. Previously each time it led to total system freeze.
So now I'm almost happy and this meaningless post is just because of my wish to share my happiness.

Thank you guys from fglrx-linux team, thank you Vi0L0!

timong · 2010-03-25 15:01:12

and my first week on Catalyst 10.4 beta and Xorg GIT ( aka server 1.8) passed. No major issue thats not present with xorg 1.7.

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Vi0L0 · 2010-03-25 15:25:16

LOL, in fresh catalyst 10.3 archive_files/packages/Mandriva/ directory there is a good old original not-fixed fglrx-2.6.33.patch - the same thats not working on our i686 systems
Im wondering will it work for mandriva

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timong · 2010-03-25 18:18:12

And another interesting release came:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pa … river.aspx

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/ … _Linux.zip

http://blogs.amd.com/developer/2010/03/ … pengl-4-0/

Its /fglrx-8.712.3.1/

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snack · 2010-03-25 18:31:17

Interesting. Ati seems a bit more responsive, in this period: 10.4 supports xorg-server 1.8 (and also a patched kernel 2.6.34, if I correctly understood). now this OpenGL 4.0 beta driver. I hope something has changed...

Cdh · 2010-03-25 18:51:39

catalyst 10.4 runs on my kernel 2.6.34-rc2 without problems. I didn't change anything in the configuration of kernel26-rc from aur.
Only problem is that my PC does not power off it just says on the screen that it should now be powered off...

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-25 18:55:15

timong wrote:

And another interesting release came:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pa … river.aspx
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/ … _Linux.zip
http://blogs.amd.com/developer/2010/03/ … pengl-4-0/
Its /fglrx-8.712.3.1/

aaah... also basing on extracted directories naming - theres no xserver 1.7 support
so its 10.3++
Edit: Umm... you may safely change AUR's catalyst PKGBUILD to build it, just change name and md5sum
I dont even know howto test this new opengl features so i believe its kinda useless right now, but still its very nice that they delivered it so quickly!

Cdh wrote:

catalyst 10.4 runs on my kernel 2.6.34-rc2 without problems. I didn't change anything in the configuration of kernel26-rc from aur.
Only problem is that my PC does not power off it just says on the screen that it should now be powered off...

looks like kernel issue

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timong · 2010-03-25 19:02:46

snack wrote:

Interesting. Ati seems a bit more responsive, in this period: 10.4 supports xorg-server 1.8 (and also a patched kernel 2.6.34, if I correctly understood). now this OpenGL 4.0 beta driver. I hope something has changed...

Well,its not ati, its that kernel and xorg didnt change too much with the version updates. So if more things will change, i foresee that ati will lag behind months.. but ogl 4 is cool.:cool:

flamelab · 2010-03-25 19:08:02

WTF, OpenGL 4.0 on fglrx ? What the....

timong · 2010-03-25 19:22:12

Vi0L0 wrote:

timong wrote:
And another interesting release came:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pa … river.aspx
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/ … _Linux.zip
http://blogs.amd.com/developer/2010/03/ … pengl-4-0/
Its /fglrx-8.712.3.1/
aaah... also basing on extracted directories naming - theres no xserver 1.7 support
so its 10.3++
Edit: Umm... you may safely change AUR's catalyst PKGBUILD to build it, just change name and md5sum
I dont even know howto test this new opengl features so i believe its kinda useless right now, but still its very nice that they delivered it so quickly!

Question is, if leaked ubu driver had ogl 4 too?
The beta 10.4 i mean...

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-25 19:25:04

timong wrote:

Question is, if leaked ubu driver had ogl 4 too?
The beta 10.4 i mean...

its very easy to check out - run amdcccle
for me opengl lib version is: 3.2.9737
so i guess no ogl 4 in beta

timong · 2010-03-25 19:45:56

Vi0L0 wrote:

timong wrote:
Question is, if leaked ubu driver had ogl 4 too?
The beta 10.4 i mean...
its very easy to check out - run amdcccle
for me opengl lib version is: 3.2.9737
so i guess no ogl 4 in beta

And what about the new one? lib 4.0??

Perry3D · 2010-03-25 19:46:33

Not in your driver, but in this one: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pa … river.aspx

/edit: Phoronix: Woah, AMD Releases OpenGL 4.0 Linux Support!
But it only supports the Evergreen chips.

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Vi0L0 · 2010-03-25 20:03:00

timong wrote:

And what about the new one? lib 4.0??

$ fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.9826 BETA Compatibility Profile Context

cuz my card isnt ogl 4 compatible

Perry3D wrote:

Phoronix: Woah, AMD Releases OpenGL 4.0 Linux Support!
But it only supports the Evergreen chips.

Opengl 4 - yes, for evergreen only
Opengl 3.3 - for older ones (i mean those which supports DX 10.x - so r6xx/r7xx if im right)

Edit: this driver is rendering well known ugly watermark "Testing use only"
i guess (edit: know now) you may fix it by overwriting /etc/ati/signature with older one, ie 10.3 signature:

echo 'd86529c71a19f73bcb899faf02ef234a:e04b1ef62834c60bfbbaaf9d60c21373ee5c11f25934b66f82a9aa9b32dc1772:bd551da52b7c910df9b1ac9b61d91328be074ba67b7fce5ffdb9fc9d33dc1479bd001ca42b289109feb0ac9b60d9152ce05748fe7b78ce59f8bbfbcc33d81478' > /etc/ati/signature

but who cares - 10.4 beta rulz =]

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timong · 2010-03-25 20:25:38

oh, what a pity preview driver is not compatible with 1.7...

markg85 · 2010-03-25 21:32:39

Oh wow! I wasn't expecting http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=34773 to actually worg with my 5770 card + the latest xorg-server from the default archlinux repo but it actually is working!
I do have to say that in a "gl" desktop environment (kde with effects) that the glxgears score is extremely low for this card... just ~1700 fps.. my precious nvidia cars had ~3000 fps and that was also with all the fancy stuff enabled so something is clearly wrong.. Oh well i'm just glad this (beta?) driver is working ^_^

Cory · 2010-03-26 15:02:34

Vi0L0 wrote:

Yes, xbmc works fine and without flickering with both ARB and software rendering. Just change xbmc settings.

Thank you very much!!! had at least 5 months without solving the problem

dcc24 · 2010-03-27 13:00:27

I'd like to ask for a favor, from catalyst users. Can you check if OpenTTD stutters/lags for you on fullscreen? I'm trying to find out if a problem is caused by catalyst, or SDL.

Install with pacman -S openttd. When you are in game, go to "Options" select your monitors native resolution and check the fullscreen box. Start a new game. Does the mouse lag? Does scrolling through arrow keys lag?

Thanks!

Vi0L0 · 2010-03-27 14:59:14

dcc24 wrote:

Install with pacman -S openttd. When you are in game, go to "Options" select your monitors native resolution and check the fullscreen box. Start a new game. Does the mouse lag? Does scrolling through arrow keys lag?

Ive also installed openttd-opengfx and openttd-opensfx.
And nope - everything is very fine here.

dcc24 · 2010-03-27 15:20:13

I was really hoping it was a catalyst issue. Now, I don't know where to look :S Well, thanks for testing.

krimson · 2010-03-27 16:26:43

catalyst-test 10.4 is working well for me with xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
Fans seem quieter too, although I am still unable to control the fan on my secondary card. (2x HD5770)

Thanks for the PKGBUILD.

Nerd King · 2010-03-27 16:33:31

Been following the development of the open drivers for a while now since I saw Handy's thread over at UF (back when I was an Ubuntu user) and was one of the early people to put the 32 kernel and the xorg-edgers PPA and get ATI goodness. Never got 33 working in Ubuntu, but using 2.6.33-rt-ice with bfs + ati drivers on Arch and it's not only super-fast and super-stable, it's also helping me to get more ladies. Ok I lied about that last bit. But seriously though, the pace of development is very impressive. Nice

Nerd King · 2010-03-28 04:28:14

[posted stupid question then realised it was stupid. DISC.]

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yimm · 2010-03-28 09:29:25

catalyst-test works well too for me, with Direct2D too. It's fast on KDE 4
Now, I am trying UVD2

Last edited by yimm (2010-03-28 10:23:14)

agapito · 2010-03-28 11:34:27

yimm wrote:

catalyst-test works well too for me, with Direct2D too. It's fast on KDE 4
Now, I am trying UVD2

Direct2d works fine? Are you sure is really activated?

Arch Linux

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