Google Earth on Arch vs. Google Earth on Ubuntu

Raqua · 2010-03-28 10:10:03

Hello.

I have Arch as my primary system, but keep also Ubuntu, because I install this to my friends.
I am having serious troubles with Google Earth. First, it does not work properly when Compiz is used. This is a well known problem all around the forum. But even when I turn off Compiz, I still get a lot of crashes (like every 5 minutes) and artifact while browsing globe. In Ubuntu, there is this problem non existent. It works fine with Compiz and does not crash on me. I use Gnome on Arch. About info of Google Earth shows only minor version difference and kernel difference. Arch = 2.6.32, Ubuntu = 2.6.31
What is the problem? Did Ubuntu team somehow hacked this to work? Can we fix it too?

I am willing to provide additional info if needed.

Nerd King · 2010-03-28 10:18:48

What graphics card are you using? And are you using proprietary or open drivers? Could you post the output of lspci please?

Raqua · 2010-03-28 10:26:06

lspci:

00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Co-Processor (rev a2)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a1)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev a1)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE (rev a1)
00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge (rev a1)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SATA Controller (non-AHCI mode) (rev a2)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP77 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:13.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge (rev a1)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] HyperTransport Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Miscellaneous Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron] Link Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 [Radeon X1300]
02:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV515 [Radeon X1300] (Secondary)

I am using open drivers, not fglrx.

Nerd King · 2010-03-28 10:37:53

And on Ubuntu do you use the open or flgrx drivers? Just reproduced the problem and I use the open drivers. When I tried it on Ubuntu I used the closed drivers and it worked fine, so I'm wondering if that's the reason for your problems with compiz + GE. I would suggest that GE probably makes a lot of GL calls that are perhaps still problematic with the open drivers which is why it's unstable even with Compiz off (no better with KWin with effects either).
Actually just spotted something.. ATI X1300.. does FLGRX support that anymore?
Regarding whether ubuntu hacked something, maybe it's an idea to get the deb file, extract it and use the files contained within on your Arch install.
Apologies for not-terribly-helpful post.. I think I may be in over my head a little so I'll duck out and see if someone more experienced can come up with something better.

Nerd King · 2010-03-28 10:56:47

Incidentally, just doing a test in fluxbox right now, performance is absolutely fine, but it may be related to my using 2.6.33-rt-ice kernel.

Raqua · 2010-03-28 10:57:00

I am using radeon driver on both installs.

brebs · 2010-03-28 12:19:22

Try removing google-earth's qt libs, to use your system's:

cd ~/google-earth # Or wherever you installed it
mkdir qt-libs-old
mv libQt* qt-libs-old/

Raqua · 2010-03-28 13:10:15

Thanks for the suggestion, but I have no problem with fonts, nor do I have Qt libs in my google-earth installation.

1LordAnubis · 2010-03-29 04:14:42

my google earth works fine, but i'm using nvidia-173xx, so maybe its related to a driver issue for you.

Cape · 2010-03-29 12:12:47

Even mine works fine with proprietary nvidia drivers and compiz (both on or off). And it's seamlessly impossible to hack google earth since it's not open source so the installer merely copies already compiled files. I would bet one of my ball that it's a matter of open/proprietary drivers ;-)

PS: just joking about my ball!!

Last edited by Cape (2010-03-29 12:13:57)

Raqua · 2010-03-29 20:51:47

I was also thinking that it would be somehow connected to drivers/xorg/mesa stack. Could it be KMS? I think it is enabled in Ubuntu by default now.

Nerd King · 2010-03-30 12:47:47

KMS isn't enabled by default til Lucid. Karmic certainly doesn't use it.

Raqua · 2010-04-02 09:42:01

Ubuntu 9.10 does indeed have KMS enabled.
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/W … 46772.html

cool · 2010-04-06 06:55:53

Even I have a problem with Google Earth. it starts fine but does not display the maps. I only see BLACK screen.

System Info:
Google Earth 5
from aur package bin32-google-earth
x86_64
Using propitiatory NVIDIA driver
X86_64

gablink · 2010-05-31 07:54:26

System Info:
Google Earth 5
from aur package bin32-google-earth
x86_64
Using propitiatory NVIDIA driver
X86_64

And lib32-nvidia-utils is installed?

tangato · 2010-11-04 21:17:19

I'm using ATI free radeon driver. Installing lib32-ati-dri completly solved on arch x64 for me. Using

from multilib: lib32-ati-dri 7.8.2-5

from aur: bin32-google-earth 5.2.1.1588-3

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Google Earth on Arch vs. Google Earth on Ubuntu

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