There won't be Songbird for linux anymore!

sironitomas · 2010-04-03 15:32:15

Hi everyone. This post is not an issue, but i'd like all of you to know that Songbird recently dropped his support on linux. That's a very bad news, because this used to be my mainly audio player and it was really getting better. But this morning I read this post http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2010/04/02 … -new-tune/ and I got sad. What do you think about this?

syre · 2010-04-03 15:46:35

dropping linux support and implementing video playback? whatever happened to music-only-players and video-only-players? In my opinon there's enough multimedia players for the Windows platform as it is, i dont think it's a wise decision on their part

Skripka · 2010-04-03 15:50:45

syre wrote:

dropping linux support and implementing video playback? whatever happened to music-only-players and video-only-players? In my opinon there's enough multimedia players for the Windows platform as it is, i dont think it's a wise decision on their part

There's VLC for playing video.

I think they just drove away a fair share of their dev and user base....in the name of a feature that lots of other software already does in a lightweight manner.

Anikom15 · 2010-04-03 16:03:20

^ exactly.

It's Free so I bet it'll fork. I don't use songbird, I like Rhythmbox.

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elvinatom · 2010-04-03 16:36:34

Their decission is hard to comprehend, considering the philosophy behind foss. It seems to me that at the heart of it they were never concerned with issues like fairness, choice, freedom and honesty in the first place, because, imo, supporting Windows 7 over Linux is anti-oss and anti-freedom. I don't even know that player and I have to say I'm glad about it, otherwise it would have felt much worse (like it did for Ubuntu+Yahoo / Gnome+Mono).

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rune0077 · 2010-04-03 16:46:45

elvinatom wrote:

Their decission is hard to comprehend, considering the philosophy behind foss. It seems to me that at the heart of it they were never concerned with issues like fairness, choice, freedom and honesty in the first place, because, imo, supporting Windows 7 over Linux is anti-oss and anti-freedom. I don't even know that player and I have to say I'm glad about it, otherwise it would have felt much worse (like it did for Ubuntu+Yahoo / Gnome+Mono).

Open Source is Open Source, regardless of what platform it runs on. Open Source just means access to the source code, no more, no less, and running it on Windows 7 as opposed to Linux really doesn't change that at all.

Oh well, I've never used Songbird so I won't shed any tears for it.

Spacenick · 2010-04-03 17:04:09

That's the difference between FreeSoftware as the GNU Project does it and the stupid, it's all about Source stuff like Songbird or Firefox.
It's not the same whether you are running Free (as in free speech)Software on Windows or on Linux.
Even if seeing it more lax this is simply stupid, no one needs another iTunes clone for Windows.
Anyway from the memories I have it won't be to great a loss.

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NerveJessen · 2010-04-03 17:04:54

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen this happen.

elvinatom · 2010-04-03 17:39:24

I understand what oss means, just like I know that what they do is "legal" and that windows or linux or os/2 is just a bunch of bits and bytes. I obviously wasn't disputing any definitions of the terms or implying that some contract has been violated or any deception took place. What I tried to portray is (in my offended moment) that I am disapointed about free software producers catering to the corrupt-to-the-core Microsoft standards whilst leaving the already software-scarce Linux community (at least in comparison to Windows) with another program less - and for what it seems, all because the devs want to use pure Windows-dev-tools / Windows-only features. I am, as usualy, amazed that no one seems to care to much about it.

NerveJessen wrote:

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen this happen.

What do you mean?

anonymous_user · 2010-04-03 19:22:10

rune0077 wrote:

Oh well, I've never used Songbird so I won't shed any tears for it.

Same here. Besides its hard to miss such a bloated player...

Mr Green · 2010-04-16 20:07:19

I have tried Songbird but it never really did what I need, so continue to use Exaile... but what if more apps followed suit where does it leave the Linux community

Nightingale is its spin off but users are going to be more wary in case it vanishes... or does not get any support

MrG

Snakeye · 2010-04-16 21:07:37

I tried it once, found it to be unstable and not as good as Rythmbox or Amarok. Amarok is my main player now that i use KDE instead of Gnome. So no big loss there.

655321 · 2010-04-17 08:09:40

a shame it is, used it and loved it, but if it stays open source some community will fork it and all songbird linux user will benefit from the fork, hopefully making it more stable for linux plat.

txus · 2010-04-17 09:22:18

And here it comes: http://getnightingale.org/

It seems they really want to take it seriously, so I think once they release their first version it should be a good alternative for most (not me, as some of you have mentioned it is too much bloat for an audio player).

Check it out

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sva_h4cky0 · 2010-04-17 10:58:03

I never like songbird, sometimes it's crash on my box. Also songbird using much memory than other music player. Perhaps i'll try nightingale when they ready

Foucault · 2010-04-17 13:05:56

I've always found songbird ridiculously heavy for an audio player (c'mon 512MB RAM *minimum*?). It is featureful, no doubt, but still there are a lot of fine alternatives if you want to listen to music.

As for dropping Linux support... well, I suppose it was too much trouble for the developers so they tried to work for the larger possible userbase, I won't blame them for that decision. The source is always there for someone else to work on it.

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