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#51 2010-04-05 17:14:53

gwash
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Re: Ion3 dead?

calling all the (former and current) ion3 users to join the discussion: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion- … hread.html

subscribe: https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/ion-general

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#52 2010-04-05 17:24:02

gwash
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Re: Ion3 dead?

sergej wrote:

Does anybody have ion3-scripts _full and fresh_ darcs repository copy? Please share it.

http://omploader.org/vNDI1bw/ion-scripts-3.tar.bz2

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#53 2010-04-05 17:25:49

gwash
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Re: Ion3 dead?

pootzko wrote:

what's the latest ion3 release that could potentialy be forked into something new?

yes, we're working on that, see above post...

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#54 2010-04-05 18:45:30

sergej
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Re: Ion3 dead?

gwash wrote:
sergej wrote:

Does anybody have ion3-scripts _full and fresh_ darcs repository copy? Please share it.

http://omploader.org/vNDI1bw/ion-scripts-3.tar.bz2

thanks

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#55 2010-04-05 20:15:52

Ranguvar
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Re: Ion3 dead?

That's really unfortunate.  I missed Tuomo's rantings.  As unhelpful and devoid of solutions as they often were, they were from a very fresh outlook.
Now I wish I had saved that site...

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#56 2010-04-05 20:39:37

gwash
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From: Cairo, Egypt
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Posts: 27

Re: Ion3 dead?

Ranguvar wrote:

That's really unfortunate.  I missed Tuomo's rantings.  As unhelpful and devoid of solutions as they often were, they were from a very fresh outlook.
Now I wish I had saved that site...

all is not lost:
http://web.archive.org/web/200805161106 … uomov/ion/

some sauce:
http://web.archive.org/web/200802231957 … ~tuomov/b/
http://web.archive.org/web/200705282204 … uomov/vis/ (this is some rare case, where he actually provides an answer, enjoy!)

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#57 2010-04-06 16:09:08

freigeist
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Re: Ion3 dead?

gwash wrote:

calling all the (former and current) ion3 users to join the discussion: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion- … hread.html

subscribe: https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/ion-general

Thanks for pointing me to this thread...I made my decision too and will stay at ion as long as it works.


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#58 2010-04-06 16:17:51

gwash
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Re: Ion3 dead?

freigeist wrote:
gwash wrote:

calling all the (former and current) ion3 users to join the discussion: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion- … hread.html

subscribe: https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/ion-general

Thanks for pointing me to this thread...I made my decision too and will stay at ion as long as it works.

thanks, and the AUR package is working again (thanks to sergej) if you still can't find the source: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16754

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#59 2010-04-07 06:21:06

Berticus
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Re: Ion3 dead?

Some may like want to check tritium window manager; inspired by ion, written in python.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tritium/
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25662

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#60 2010-04-07 22:00:10

Ranguvar
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Posts: 2,563

Re: Ion3 dead?

gwash wrote:
Ranguvar wrote:

That's really unfortunate.  I missed Tuomo's rantings.  As unhelpful and devoid of solutions as they often were, they were from a very fresh outlook.
Now I wish I had saved that site...

all is not lost:
http://web.archive.org/web/200805161106 … uomov/ion/

some sauce:
http://web.archive.org/web/200802231957 … ~tuomov/b/
http://web.archive.org/web/200705282204 … uomov/vis/ (this is some rare case, where he actually provides an answer, enjoy!)

Why thank you smile

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#61 2010-04-08 10:50:29

Drakebyte
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Re: Ion3 dead?

Noticed too that Ion3 appears to be dead. Though I like the fact there's something available in the AUR, I much prefer using software that doesn't have a bad taste to it. And with bad taste, I mean the author.

Considering I'm making my own distribution for personal use only, I figured I might as well make my own window manager for it.

http://www.drakebyte.net/maria/

Much inspired on Ion3, but intended to be more open and for general use. I liked Ion's concept, I thought I might just try and make it better.

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#62 2010-04-08 14:00:03

gwash
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From: Cairo, Egypt
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Posts: 27

Re: Ion3 dead?

Drakebyte wrote:

Noticed too that Ion3 appears to be dead. Though I like the fact there's something available in the AUR, I much prefer using software that doesn't have a bad taste to it. And with bad taste, I mean the author.

Considering I'm making my own distribution for personal use only, I figured I might as well make my own window manager for it.

http://www.drakebyte.net/maria/

Much inspired on Ion3, but intended to be more open and for general use. I liked Ion's concept, I thought I might just try and make it better.

hi Drakebyte, we (the ion3 community) are currently in the process of forking Ion, and it says in the "FAQ" that you only thought of crating "maria" yesterday (so i assume it's still in a pretty early dev stage) , would you consider contributing to the new fork, instead of going at it on your own?

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#63 2010-04-08 20:36:49

Drakebyte
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Re: Ion3 dead?

Hey Gwash,

I would've normally helped out here, but Maria is very different in it's core design compared to Ion3, and definitely would behave as a different Window Manager compared to Ion3. I mostly meant it as a reference for people who liked Ion3 and would like to try something inspired on it. I did afterall start with Maria due to Ion3 being discontinued (and disliking the author).

When Maria's finished, I'll look into contributing code to Ion3 from Maria that could be useful. It's just that to me, Ion3 left a somewhat bad taste in my mouth due to the author.

Yours,
Jesse

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#64 2010-04-09 01:53:10

gwash
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Posts: 27

Re: Ion3 dead?

Drakebyte wrote:

Hey Gwash,

I would've normally helped out here, but Maria is very different in it's core design compared to Ion3, and definitely would behave as a different Window Manager compared to Ion3. I mostly meant it as a reference for people who liked Ion3 and would like to try something inspired on it. I did afterall start with Maria due to Ion3 being discontinued (and disliking the author).

When Maria's finished, I'll look into contributing code to Ion3 from Maria that could be useful. It's just that to me, Ion3 left a somewhat bad taste in my mouth due to the author.

Yours,
Jesse

I completely understand, good luck smile

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#65 2010-04-09 11:42:48

Drakebyte
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Re: Ion3 dead?

You too ^^

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#66 2010-04-10 13:20:59

milomouse
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Re: Ion3 dead?

Didn't want to start a thread over this, but I'm wondering how does one call the "notify" display in ion? (used when option "screen_notify=true" in cfg_ion.lua) It shows up if something happens on another workspace like a Firefox download finishes, etc, but I'm not sure how to interact with it myself. There's a lot of source code to look through so I'm just wondering if anyone else has the answer before I go delving. Thanks.

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#67 2010-04-25 18:16:10

bosh
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Re: Ion3 dead?

Ranguvar wrote:

That's really unfortunate.  I missed Tuomo's rantings.  As unhelpful and devoid of solutions as they often were, they were from a very fresh outlook.
Now I wish I had saved that site...

Well, I did save Tuomo's blog (httrack mirror), so if anyone wants to read his blogposts again, grab your copy here: http://www.spathiphyllum.net/tuomov_blog.tgz (1,3MB). I didn't save anything else than his blog, unfortunately.

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#68 2010-04-26 14:00:23

timofonic
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Posts: 47

Re: Ion3 dead?

Hello.

So now we have two ion3 forks, right?

http://code.google.com/p/anion3/
http://notion.sourceforge.net

What about a merge?

Also, i3 is not a fork but a rewrite. NIH?

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#69 2010-04-26 15:20:59

litemotiv
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Re: Ion3 dead?

timofonic wrote:

Also, i3 is not a fork but a rewrite. NIH?

i3 has nothing to do with ion3, it was more inspired by wmii


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#70 2010-04-26 15:45:05

timofonic
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Re: Ion3 dead?

litemotiv wrote:
timofonic wrote:

Also, i3 is not a fork but a rewrite. NIH?

i3 has nothing to do with ion3, it was more inspired by wmii

So what?

I was talking about Ion3 forks too.

Anyway, i3 has a very similar concept name so it may be confusing...

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#71 2010-04-26 19:33:16

Ogion
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Re: Ion3 dead?

I assume "i3" is meant as a refernce to wmii (which came from wmi -> wmi improved), but that'a just a guess.

Ogion


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#72 2010-04-26 19:45:51

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Re: Ion3 dead?

No.  i3 is it's own project.


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