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Llama

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From: St.-Petersburg, Russia

Registered: 2008-03-03

Posts: 1,379

KDE: Semantic Desktop

Hi,

Until recently Nepomuk, Strigi and things didn't really work at all. Now you can at least start the services and escape capital punishment. Still, I'm a bit puzzled.

(1) Why does it keep on indexing files which obviously doesn't require (re)indexing? If it has to, why hogging all the available CPU for twenty, thirty of forty minutes?

(2) It's supposed to be smart. Well, there's a gcc-gcj.tar.gz file somewhere. When I type gcc-gcj in the search string, nothing happens.  It has to be gcc-gcj.tar for the semantic gears to mesh at last. It isn't exactly my idea of gain for that kind of investment.

Is there a way to make it better? Or is it wise just to wait a bit more?

AngryKoala

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Registered: 2009-01-22

Posts: 197

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

It is a fairly new implementation AFAIK and still needs some work, but I've already turned mine off.  Are there any expression patterns you can use (ie asterisks for wild cards)?

Llama

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From: St.-Petersburg, Russia

Registered: 2008-03-03

Posts: 1,379

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

Are there any expression patterns you can use (ie asterisks for wild cards)?

That's a good question. But I vaguely expect it to be a level smarter than that. Not another dog, but a man, after all

xCrucialDudex

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Registered: 2007-08-19

Posts: 144

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

It is a work in progress and it is still early to pass any judgments.

dptkby

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Registered: 2009-07-02

Posts: 64

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

I think it's a bit strange, though, that the KDE devs keep pushing out unfinished stuff like this and act all indignant when users complain.

Primoz

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From: Ljubljana-Slovena-EU

Registered: 2009-03-04

Posts: 689

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

I think this might help:
http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=154

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Vamp898

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From: 東京

Registered: 2009-01-03

Posts: 934

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Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

I think it's a bit strange, though, that the KDE devs keep pushing out unfinished stuff like this and act all indignant when users complain.

The best way to test Software xD

z0phi3l

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From: Waterbury CT

Registered: 2007-11-26

Posts: 278

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

I think it's a bit strange, though, that the KDE devs keep pushing out unfinished stuff like this and act all indignant when users complain.

The best way to test Software xD

I know there will be many that disagree, but you are correct
Depending on the project and scale, internal testing will never be able to find the kind of bugs that having a few thousand testers can find

Might be why I don't mind using Alph/Beta software, as long as it helps deliver a better product

Vamp898

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From: 東京

Registered: 2009-01-03

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Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

But i say at least this is why im afraid of KDE too

I want to start KMail to read my e-mails and akonadi with MySQL and so on starts and use 300mb of my memory!!! this is more than whole XFCE or even GNOME uses (fresh after the start).

On Gentoo you can set USE-Flags ( -semantic-desktop ) so the packages are compiled without semantic desktop support. But on Archlinux it is build in and will every be. Also i dont know if KDE 4.5 _forces_ you to use akonadi and so on.

I dont want to start an MySQL Driven Akonadi Server for reading my e-mails. Im a Home-User and no Company!!!

Blue Peppers

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From: Newbury, UK

Registered: 2009-02-01

Posts: 178

Re: KDE: Semantic Desktop

On Gentoo you can set USE-Flags ( -semantic-desktop ) so the packages are compiled without semantic desktop support. But on Archlinux it is build in and will every be.

Well you could follow the Gentoo route of compiling your own installation using the ABS? You can't ask for arch to disable what is gradually shaping up to be a integral part of kde... It'd be nothing less than an insult to the devs.

Also i dont know if KDE 4.5 _forces_ you to use akonadi and so on. I dont want to start an MySQL Driven Akonadi Server for reading my e-mails. Im a Home-User and no Company!!!

See the Akonadi FAQ for why they didn't use sqlite. Frankly, it would make no difference in a cooperate environment, as the Akonadi server is started on a per user basis, and is not built for sharing over the network. The KMail port to Akonadi is, as much as you may hate it, a good thing, and the KDE devs are putting a lot of work into it. I feel KDEs goal at the moment is for total integration, and that will come through technologies like Akonadi, nepomuk and dbus.

KDE is work in progress, and I hope it always is. Stuff will improve. You could even, god forbid, get involved, then maybe have a say next time someone suggests mysql

EDIT: It seems that I have paraphrased you, or at least muddled up the order of the sentences of you post I have quoted. Sorry for any offense/misinterpretation.

Last edited by Blue Peppers (2010-04-19 12:38:37)

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