Arch Linux

lagagnon

Member

From: an Island in the Pacific...

Registered: 2009-12-10

Posts: 1,087

Website

opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

I have just attempted to install the AUR opera-devel (10.5) package with "yaourt -S opera-devel" and it fails with:

checking dependencies...
error: replacing packages with -U is not supported yet
error: you can replace packages manually using -Rd and -U
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: opera-devel: conflicts with opera
==> WARNING: Your package is saved in /tmp/yaourt-tmp-larry/opera-devel-10.52_6272-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

Any ideas what I do next? Yes, I do already have Opera 10.10 installed.

---

Philosophy is looking for a black cat in a dark room. Metaphysics is looking for a black cat in a dark room that isn't there. Religion is looking for a black cat in a dark room that isn't there and shouting "I found it!". Science is looking for a black cat in a dark room with a flashlight.

flamelab

Member

From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Υes, you must uninstall opera 10.10 first.

Opera 10.50 is not very usable, and has serious problems with languages other than... English.

Skripka

Member

From: 2X1280X1024

Registered: 2009-02-19

Posts: 555

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Υes, you must uninstall opera 10.10 first.

Opera 10.50 is not very usable, and has serious problems with languages other than... English.

To be more concise, Opera 10.50 for linux is at an alpha quality level. 

The feature set is not yet complete.  In addition to internationalization problems, integration with KDE does not exist, 10.5 also lacks mouse back/forward ability, right-click scroll to other tabs is broken, and 10.50 has problems with things like vBulletin forums.

10.50 is probably months away from a final stable release...by which time 10.6 for Windows will probably be out.

lagagnon

Member

From: an Island in the Pacific...

Registered: 2009-12-10

Posts: 1,087

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

OK then, thanks everyone. I will patiently await a final release before reinstalling.

---

Philosophy is looking for a black cat in a dark room. Metaphysics is looking for a black cat in a dark room that isn't there. Religion is looking for a black cat in a dark room that isn't there and shouting "I found it!". Science is looking for a black cat in a dark room with a flashlight.

muunleit

Member

From: Germany

Registered: 2008-02-23

Posts: 234

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

The feature set is not yet complete.  ..., 10.5 also lacks mouse back/forward ability, ...

Do anyone know how to disable this feature in opera?

---

"The mind can make a heaven out of hell or a hell out of heaven" -- John Milton

Mr.Elendig

#archlinux@freenode channel op

From: The intertubes

Registered: 2004-11-07

Posts: 4,092

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

checking dependencies...
error: replacing packages with -U is not supported yet
error: you can replace packages manually using -Rd and -U
error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)
:: opera-devel: conflicts with opera
==> WARNING: Your package is saved in /tmp/yaourt-tmp-larry/opera-devel-10.52_6272-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

Reading the error message is usually a smart thing to do.

Last edited by Mr.Elendig (2010-03-29 17:30:11)

---

Evil #archlinux@libera.chat channel op and general support dude.
. files on github, Screenshots, Random pics and the rest

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Just a thought, if do you want side by side installs of the stable and the development branch, you could use pacman/yaourt to install the stable and then use the install shell script (provided within the official tarball packages of the development branch) to perform a 'suffix install'. Management of the development install will be outside of pacman however (we provide our own uninstaller). If you don't like the sound of this, then obviously don't do it.

Alternatively you can just unpack one of the tarballs and run Opera in place. All settings/preferences will be kept within the extracted directory.

P.S. I guess if someone wants a PKGBUILD that allows side by side installation with the stable, I could probably make this fairly easily.

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Υes, you must uninstall opera 10.10 first.

Opera 10.50 is not very usable, and has serious problems with languages other than... English.

Try the latest build. Most of the input issues are resolved (unless you use an IME).

flamelab

Member

From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Υes, you must uninstall opera 10.10 first.

Opera 10.50 is not very usable, and has serious problems with languages other than... English.

Try the latest build. Most of the input issues are resolved (unless you use an IME).

This is greek as it displayed by Opera -->
ߊߡ߫ߧ߬߱ߡ

It ought to be this word: Καλημέρα [<-- wrote this with Firefox)

Last edited by flamelab (2010-04-06 12:14:27)

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

@flamelab: Just to confirm. You are using 6302?

Last edited by ruario (2010-04-06 12:17:53)

flamelab

Member

From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

@flamelab: Just to confirm. You are using 6302?

Nope,

Version
10.52 Internal

Build
6273

Platform
Linux

System
x86_64, 2.6.33-ARCH

I was using opera-snapshot. Trying this one.

flamelab

Member

From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Αυτό ειναι ένα τεστ.

Yes it's working

gtklocker

Member

Registered: 2009-09-01

Posts: 462

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Cool.

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

I took over opera-devel and hence dropped opera-snapshot, since opera-devel had more votes and hence likely more users.

arch0r

Member

From: From the Chron-o-John

Registered: 2008-05-13

Posts: 597

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

do you know when opera will be finally released for linux?

flamelab

Member

From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

Weird artifacts on about:opera and gitorious

(the same on about:opera, haven't made a screenshot)

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

@flamelab: Did you read the known issues in my blog post? Specifically,

Problems with bitmap fonts, resulting in narrow and multi-colored fonts on some websites

A bitmap font is being selected and then displays corrupted. Either remove fonts such as xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi (you probably don't need them), or wait for us to fix it.

Last edited by ruario (2010-04-06 18:43:33)

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

@arch0r: Sure I do! WIR (when it's ready)

flamelab

Member

From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

@flamelab: Did you read the known issues in my blog post? Specifically,

Problems with bitmap fonts, resulting in narrow and multi-colored fonts on some websites

A bitmap font is being selected and then displays corrupted. Either remove fonts such as xorg-fonts-100dpi and xorg-fonts-75dpi (you probably don't need them), or wait for us to fix it.

I'll wait for you to fix it

Last edited by flamelab (2010-04-07 06:53:02)

ruario

Member

From: Oslo

Registered: 2009-11-10

Posts: 63

Website

Re: opera-devel: conflicts with opera ??

@flamelab: Bitmap fonts are turned off by default now in 10.52-6320. This will solve the issue for many people. If it doesn't fix it for you I suspect you have a fonts that include bitmap versions but call themselves true type fonts. A good example of this is tahoma alternative (provided by the Wine and CrossOver packages). Look at '
/usr/share/wine/fonts/tahoma.ttf' with a utility like 'gnome-font-view'. You will see that at some sizes it provides bitmaps, which cannot have antialiasing applied to them. We'll probably blacklist such broken fonts in the future. In the mean time if tahoma alternative is your problem, you can replace it with Microsoft's Tahoma from the ttf-tahoma PKGBUILD on the AUR.

Last edited by ruario (2010-04-20 14:53:53)