Clyde - A better libalpm/makepkg wrapper

alterecco · 2010-04-17 22:30:52

Funny... I never felt I typed either pacman or clyde commands (or yaourt when I used that) so often that they merited an alias... how can something like that ever become a point of contention? If this came up in a thread about `ls' or `cd' and their (fictional) harder to type counterparts, then I could understand it, but comparing the command name of two tools that are used like package managers seems silly. In either case, I use clyde, and it rocks. I used to use yaourt, and it rocked too. I am really glad for the hard work you are doing on clyde Kiwi. Many props for that. And the yaourt developers have no doubt help spark the development of clyde (and apparently still do), so many props to them too.

venky80 · 2010-04-20 08:24:34

can i list packages installed by groups/repository such as base /base-devel/extra/community i thought yaourt had that feature

mcmillan · 2010-04-20 16:13:20

venky80 wrote:

can i list packages installed by groups/repository such as base /base-devel/extra/community i thought yaourt had that feature

-Qg [group] lists groups - that's a feature from pacman itself. I don't think there's a built in function for repositories, but you can pipe things to grep easily enough

Daenyth · 2010-04-20 17:25:00

-Sl for repo. Needs moar {,pac}man

btouellette · 2010-04-21 16:12:26

When using "sudo clyde -Syu --aur" clyde doesn't seem to be always dropping root privileges before installing. Updating nautilus-dropbox today I got the following message.

==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is a BAD idea and can cause
permanent, catastrophic damage to your system. If you
wish to run as root, please use the --asroot option.

"sudo clyde -Syua" allowed the install to go through without a hitch though.

Not completely sure which side of the keyboard the problem is on but figured I'd say something!

Last edited by btouellette (2010-04-21 16:13:42)

SanskritFritz · 2010-04-21 19:18:32

checking package integrity...
:: File clyde-git-20100421-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted. Do you want to delete it? [Y/n]
error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package)
clyde-git-20100421-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz is invalid or corrupted
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

Tyriel · 2010-04-22 07:56:17

Love this project, keep up the great work.

Just have a simple question and I could be mistaken but Clyde does not seem to take into account the proxy settings http_proxy and ftp_proxy etc. which is a real pain as I can't use it at University. Is there any intention to implement proxy support in the future?

ijanos · 2010-04-22 08:54:42

Tyriel wrote:

Love this project, keep up the great work.
Just have a simple question and I could be mistaken but Clyde does not seem to take into account the proxy settings http_proxy and ftp_proxy etc. which is a real pain as I can't use it at University. Is there any intention to implement proxy support in the future?

Try tsocks or proxychains. You can use any program though proxy without native proxy support.
for example: configure your /etc/tsocks.conf and then run:

 tsocks clyde -Syu

Tyriel · 2010-04-22 11:32:54

Thanks for the tip ijanos, I'll try that out tomorrow.

bruce · 2010-04-22 13:42:13

+1 for proxychains... can't remember why exactly, but for some reason I tried tsocks but moved to proxychains pretty quickly

venky80 · 2010-04-22 14:56:38

mcmillan wrote:

venky80 wrote:
can i list packages installed by groups/repository such as base /base-devel/extra/community i thought yaourt had that feature
-Qg [group] lists groups - that's a feature from pacman itself. I don't think there's a built in function for repositories, but you can pipe things to grep easily enough

could you tell me how?

mcmillan · 2010-04-22 15:42:36

venky80 wrote:

mcmillan wrote:
venky80 wrote:
can i list packages installed by groups/repository such as base /base-devel/extra/community i thought yaourt had that feature
-Qg [group] lists groups - that's a feature from pacman itself. I don't think there's a built in function for repositories, but you can pipe things to grep easily enough
could you tell me how?

clyde -Q lists all the installed packages preceeded by the repo they're from. Any command followed by | grep [term] searches through the output of that command. So clyde -Q | grep ^[repo] will search the output of clyde -Q for all lines that start with the name of the repo.

timofonic · 2010-04-24 11:53:23

How to remove not needing dependencies of a package while uninstalling? That's something still not get it, the man page is quite redundant in certain way and a rewrite could make things clearer.

Also, I don't understand certain logic in the way commands are done.

Some way to "replace" packages in a more clean way? I mean I want to replace libpurple to libpurple-minimal and remove unnecessary dependencies, I need to execute at least to instances of Clyde I think

As I already said before to the dev, an option to clear cache and temporary files could be nice

venky80 · 2010-04-24 18:00:52

is there a way to get rid of conf files along with the package when the package is uninstalled? like clyde.conf smb.conf which clutter the /etc/ directory?

JohannesSM64 · 2010-04-24 18:21:17

venky80 wrote:

is there a way to get rid of conf files along with the package when the package is uninstalled? like clyde.conf smb.conf which clutter the /etc/ directory?

No, package removal only removes the files the package installs. clyde.conf is created by clyde on first run rather than being owned by the package, so you have to remove it manually.

shining_grin · 2010-04-25 16:03:03

AFAIK pacman can to remove some important configuration files belonging to the removed package.
This can be done using

pacman -Rns <package name>

For other info see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pac … g_packages

venky80 · 2010-04-25 18:53:36

shining_grin wrote:

AFAIK pacman can to remove some important configuration files belonging to the removed package.
This can be done using
pacman -Rns <package name>
For other info see http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pac … g_packages

yeah but it does not work perfectly...some config files are still left case in point would be samba

cactus · 2010-04-26 01:17:33

I wrote some patches that do the following:
1. fix compiler warnings from issue/40
2. convert building to cmake, with install functionality; converted manpae to pod2man, and build it as part of the build.
3. add install section for the scripts (forgotten in previous patch)

posted patches in a tarball: here

Kiwi said he wasn't especially interested in using cmake, so I just threw the patches in a tarball for anyone who wanted to look at them.

patches should apply cleanly to commit:def0d69fc5dd757c408009653c5d4a0bbaf59719

Last edited by cactus (2010-04-26 01:21:18)

Kiwi · 2010-04-27 02:26:02

CACTUS! I cannot get your cmake patches to even work so don't give me that guff!

Get on IRC you gimp!

[kiwi@lappy:clyde-cactus/clydebuild]$ cmake ..                                          (04-26 21:23)
CMake Error at cmake/MacroOutOfSourceBuild.cmake:30 (MESSAGE):
  clyde requires an out tree build.
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  CMakeLists.txt:26 (EOOSB)


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
[kiwi@lappy:clyde-cactus/clydebuild]$                                                   (04-26 21:23)

I tried to find info about that and the best I could come up with says that that should work.

cactus · 2010-04-27 03:37:49

hmm. it works here. I got kiwi further along on irc, but it throws compile errors on his system. I had no problem on mine, and another person in IRC had no issues as well.

It was a bit of a drive by code drop, just something I played around with..so I don't expect him to waste time on it.
Maybe someone else will be interested enough to find out what the problem was, and/or integrate it further. Or not!

Adamantium · 2010-04-27 08:02:18

I don't have sudo installed and clyde complains "Running makepkg as root is a bad idea! Continue anyway?".

If I run:

$clyde -S package
error: you cannot perform this operation unless you are root

If I run as root:

#clyde -S package
..
..
==> Running makepkg as root is a bad idea! Continue anyway? [y/N]

If I run interactively:

$clyde package
..
..
sh: sudo: command not found

So.. what is the correct way to use clyde?

Last edited by Adamantium (2010-04-27 08:03:04)

Atragor · 2010-04-27 08:58:20

Adamantium wrote:

So.. what is the correct way to use clyde?

Why can't you just install sudo and use
$sudo clyde -S package

Last edited by Atragor (2010-04-27 09:00:22)

Adamantium · 2010-04-27 09:23:00

I suppose this hasn't been implemented yet then:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 27#p721027

I didn't want to install sudo just to use this.. thought I was doing it wrong somehow
( SUDO_USER is mentioned in that post but its not working for me )

EDIT:
Sorry, my mistake, SUDO_USER works

Clyde is awesome!

Last edited by Adamantium (2010-04-27 10:21:14)

bond · 2010-04-27 23:42:04

So with the issue with transparent proxies corrupting the AUR gzip stream, is there anything I can do to help test/solve the problem?
yaourt works fine for me, but I'm guessing that just does straight html or xml queries?
maybe a fallback method in the event the gzip stream becomes corrupted?

thanks
Mike

quarkup · 2010-04-30 21:56:59

Found a bug !

clyde -S virtualbox_bin

after some lines

==> Extracting Sources...
==> Entering fakeroot environment...
==> Starting build()...
Verifying archive integrity... MD5 checksums are OK. All good.
==> ERROR: Build Failed.
    Aborting...
Build failed

edit:

Notice that makepkg builds and installs the package correctly.

Last edited by quarkup (2010-04-30 21:58:11)

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