Does an extras .iso exist?

lens · 2010-04-18 00:59:18

All,

Maybe I'm asking the wrong question. I have an off-network host that I have installed 2009-08-core onto.
Now I want to install some stuff out of extras. Is there an .iso of extras or something like that I can put on
a USB stick?

FYI I abandonded trying to use archboot and instead setup core .img on a USB then installed to CF card
and boot from that. The only issue was the the disk order in grub was wrong. grub was set to boot from (hd1,0)
but I had to change that to (hd0,0). I got a Grub error 15 before I fixed it.

I also ran into a problem where the gpt I created during my archboot attempt prevented me from installing the
2009.08 core. I got around that by using knoppix and gparted. Also while in gparted I created my /boot, /, swap
for my 2009.08 core install.

Allan · 2010-04-18 01:04:35

No, only a core one. I am fairly sure there is instructions on how to update and install packages on a networkless machine in the wiki.

lens · 2010-04-18 01:24:06

Ok, so no .iso, I will have to download all the extras and make my own. I do not see anything specific about doing a networkless install.
I have looked, but again, asking the right question or searching for the right term is key and I guess I haven't found the right word.

p.s. how is Hurd these days?

phil90 · 2010-04-18 02:33:20

If you wanted you could download the packages you need from another computer and then install the packages with pacman
pacman -U /path/to/package/package_name-version.pkg.tar.gz

lens · 2010-04-18 04:14:31

phil90 wrote:

If you wanted you could download the packages you need from another computer and then install the packages with pacman
pacman -U /path/to/package/package_name-version.pkg.tar.gz

That's the conclusion I reached also. The trick is to know which pkgs I need. If I need foo.pkg and download and install I will find out that it
requires bar.pkg, then download bar.pkg, install, and find out bar.pkg needs baz.pkg, etc., etc.

jasonwryan · 2010-04-18 04:26:46

Arch Wiki wrote:

To display extensive information about a given package:
$ pacman -Si package

(including dependencies)...

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pac … _databases

hokasch · 2010-04-18 09:55:14

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Off … f_Packages

lens · 2010-04-18 16:47:47

Thanks hokasch, I had seen already that I would need to do something like this. I see the checksums are in the desc.

lens · 2010-04-19 22:55:42

I have a package that depends on libjpeg>=7

So any one of these will meet the dependency. Do I take highest version? In this case libjpeg-8-2 is the highest, right?
I am putting together a list of pkgs on a non-arch system (no pacman).

2009-07-14 00:00 i686/libjpeg-7-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
2010-03-02 03:24 i686/libjpeg-8.0.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
2010-01-30 19:55 i686/libjpeg-8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
2010-02-06 02:31 i686/libjpeg-8-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz

I'm going to slap together a program to build my file list with input from extras.db for example.

ngoonee · 2010-04-20 00:28:01

Why are you looking at multiple versions of libjpeg? Install the latest version of every package, unless there's a specific problem (unlikely right now, no major rebuilds on-going).

lens · 2010-04-20 01:23:13

Actually I'm thinking that arch may not be the right choice for this. As far as I can tell an arch system is needed to create a list of packages for a host not on a network.

goonee, not sure what you're talking about.

ngoonee · 2010-04-20 01:29:59

Yes, you'd need to have an Arch system with pacman installed to generate that list.

And you've listed multiple versions of the same library. Arch is rolling-release, meaning you can only have one version of a particular package installed at any one time. So you can only install one of those packages you've listed. Install the latest one, because that's what all of us have installed.

lens · 2010-04-20 01:40:42

goonee,
I think you don't understand the issue. But I realize you're trying to help. You may read this thread to understand better.

ngoonee · 2010-04-20 04:20:18

You are trying to install packages to a non-network-connected computer on which you have already installed Arch. You are tracing down dependencies for those packages, but you mistakenly assume you can/should choose between the versions available on the mirror you're looking at (probably schlunix, since there's multiple versions).

lens · 2010-04-20 05:16:10

I am going to use the extra.db to construct a list on the non-arch host to fetch the needed pkgs. Before I got the idea to use the extra.db I was using a list from the repo. extra.db solves part of the problem, it will make it easier as I don't need to sort out the pkg version/names and figure out what pkg is the current one because looking at the naming it isn't obvious.

I wrote a program that gives me a recursive list of dependencies.

./finddeps.pl yelp

Allan · 2010-04-20 05:17:57

If you want to install a package:

pacman -Sp <pkg>

will output a list of uris to download the package and its needed deps.

lens · 2010-04-22 20:26:09

I've got my pkg files on the non-networked box but how do I install them?

pacman -U xorg-server-1.7.6-3-i686.pkg.tar.xz

I get a list of dependencies. Do I need to specify each package? Might be impossible to do.

Maybe the right question is "Should I abandon trying to setup a non-networked arch install?"

Allan, pacman -Sp <pkg> produces an error: no in sync db (or similar)

lens · 2010-04-22 20:37:56

I think I posted too quick, I have my anwser in the doc about offline installs. I will try putting my pkgs in the right place and install.

lens · 2010-04-22 22:16:37

Ok, I think this is not possible. If there was an archlinux-2009.08-extras-i686.iso I might be able to do this but without it it's looking like too much work. Why is there no iso? I'm sure there's a good reason and I don't see it.

Allan · 2010-04-22 22:21:52

It is possible... we can not help you if you do not tell us what you have done and the error messages you are getting.

In all honesty, if your computer has no network connection, updating is going to be a real hassle. And if you do not update, installing additional software can break your system due to library upgrades between times. I'd look at a non-rolling release distro with a long support time.

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