Clyde - A better libalpm/makepkg wrapper

mcmillan · 2010-04-30 22:43:11

Seems to install all right for me. Running a 64bit Arch, didn't try to run anything on the virtualbox though

Berseker · 2010-05-03 07:38:47

I do not know if this issue has been already notified, but:

I was going to compile a pkg from AUR, i created a folder "package", entered in it, and issued clyde -G package for copying the PKGBUILD and stuff in the package directory i created:

- clyde dowload the package.tar.gz containing PKGBUILD and stuff in the directory i created, then uncompress it in the same directory, creating a package/package tree that in my opinion is a bit weird: wouldn't be better to simply uncompress the content of the file in the current directory (like yaourt does)? I noticed that the same behaviour is used by clyde in his /tmp/clyde directory
- also, the permissions of the directory created are wrong in my opinion

in the example i was working on package dri2proto-git

berseker@acerone ~/packages $ ls dri2proto-git/ -la
totale 16
drwxr-xr-x 3 berseker users 4096 3 mag 09.31 .
drwxr-xr-x 10 berseker users 4096 3 mag 09.31 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 http http 4096 1 gen 1970 dri2proto-git
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 786 3 mag 09.31 dri2proto-git.tar.gz

berseker@acerone ~/packages $ ls dri2proto-git/dri2proto-git -la
totale 12
drwxr-xr-x 2 http http 4096 1 gen 1970 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 berseker users 4096 3 mag 09.31 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 http http 1286 1 gen 1970 PKGBUILD

Last edited by Berseker (2010-05-03 07:39:18)

Kiwi · 2010-05-03 08:34:34

You have a very outdated clyde. I know this because the behavior changed there a long time ago. For one I do not even use /tmp/clyde but /tmp/clyde-$USER

For two, you should not run clyde, or anything really, with more privs than it needs for the task. You are running clyde -G as root/sudo when you really should be using it as user.

[kiwi@lappy:/tmp]$ clyde -G clyde-git                                                   (05-03 03:30)
==> Downloading clyde-git.tar.gz
==> Extracted clyde-git.tar.gz to current directory
[kiwi@lappy:/tmp]$ cd clyde-git                                                         (05-03 03:30)
[kiwi@lappy:/tmp/clyde-git]$ ls -ahl                                                    (05-03 03:30)
total 4.0K
drwxr-xr-x  2 kiwi users   60 Dec 31  1969 ./
drwxrwxrwt 12 root root   380 May  3 03:30 ../
-rw-r--r--  1 kiwi users 1.1K Jan  1  1970 PKGBUILD
[kiwi@lappy:/tmp/clyde-git]$                                                            (05-03 03:30)

Berseker · 2010-05-03 08:46:27

you're right. I forgot that ages ago i made an alias for use clyde with sudo.
Anyway, the clyde i'm using is the lastes git version, i update it almost every 2 o 3 days.

When i was talking about the /tmp/clyde issue, i simply forgot to add the -$user thing. The package/package folder thing is still present in it.

In your example, you didn't create the folder before launching clyde.I think I've to simply change my habits for that one (with yaourt the file were extracted in the current directory, so I had to create manually the folder before using yaourt)

ngoonee · 2010-05-03 08:51:56

Berseker wrote:

Anyway, the clyde i'm using is the lastes git version, i update it almost every 2 o 3 days.

I think clyde hasn't been updated in a month, at least the git clone doesn't give any changes . No need to be so diligent in 'updating'.

Kiwi · 2010-05-03 09:02:20

I have been busy with school and have not had as much time to devote to Clyde as I did a few months ago. I did a bunch of bug fixes about 2 weeks ago, though. I have two finals this week and two cars to fix this summer, as well as starting in June some summer classes, but I should be back to more regular updates despite that.

ngoonee · 2010-05-04 05:58:03

Kiwi wrote:

I have been busy with school and have not had as much time to devote to Clyde as I did a few months ago. I did a bunch of bug fixes about 2 weeks ago, though. I have two finals this week and two cars to fix this summer, as well as starting in June some summer classes, but I should be back to more regular updates despite that.

What already works is awesome . When I'm in a rush I use this, it just works faster.

cookiecaper · 2010-05-04 12:08:11

Are there any plans for sudo autodetection like yaourt has, wherein yaourt automatically re-runs itself as sudo if the operation requires root permissions? I like that feature.

ijanos · 2010-05-04 13:22:28

cookiecaper wrote:

Are there any plans for sudo autodetection like yaourt has, wherein yaourt automatically re-runs itself as sudo if the operation requires root permissions? I like that feature.

use an alias, or a little shell function which was mentioned in this topic before.

Berseker · 2010-05-05 15:00:49

ijanos wrote:

cookiecaper wrote:
Are there any plans for sudo autodetection like yaourt has, wherein yaourt automatically re-runs itself as sudo if the operation requires root permissions? I like that feature.
use an alias, or a little shell function which was mentioned in this topic before.

the problems with that are that
- you can't call the function "clyde", because it is already the name of the command itself
- with that, you break bash-completion (I set up the function as "clyd" and bash completion with that doesn't work)

mianka · 2010-05-05 17:04:21

the clyde homepage http://clyde.archuser.com/ has become inaccessable.

Before you did not need a PW

Last edited by mianka (2010-05-05 17:05:12)

Kiwi · 2010-05-05 17:17:12

Ghost1227 was messing with archuser.com and apparently broke all the sites.

bcat · 2010-05-05 19:27:28

Berseker wrote:

ijanos wrote:
cookiecaper wrote:
Are there any plans for sudo autodetection like yaourt has, wherein yaourt automatically re-runs itself as sudo if the operation requires root permissions? I like that feature.
use an alias, or a little shell function which was mentioned in this topic before.
the problems with that are that
- you can't call the function "clyde", because it is already the name of the command itself
- with that, you break bash-completion (I set up the function as "clyd" and bash completion with that doesn't work)

You can totally do this. In the shell function, either invoke clyde using its full path, i.e., "/usr/bin/clyde [...]", or using the "command" shell builtin, i.e., "command clyde [...]". Either one should work, though I personally prefer the "command" version because it avoids hardcoding the path to clyde. Your choice, though.

Last edited by bcat (2010-05-05 19:28:26)

Berseker · 2010-05-05 19:46:06

i have this in my .bashrc

clyd() {
    case $1 in
        (-Ss | -Si | -Q* | -T)
            /usr/bin/clyde "$@" ;;
        (-S* | -R* | -U | *)
            /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/clyde "$@" || /bin/su -c /usr/bin/clyde "$@" || return $? ;;
    esac
}

I can't call the function "clyde" because if I do so, bash complains about it. Or am I missing something?

EDIT
I really do not know why, but I tried again to rename the function "clyde" and now i can source .bashrc without errors, Wtf?

nTia89 · 2010-05-06 10:11:29

hi,
can i translate clyde in Italian ?

Kiwi · 2010-05-07 03:17:50

If pacman has already been translated into Italian there is not really a reason to as clyde can use pacman's .po files.

bruce · 2010-05-07 06:04:03

Kiwi wrote:

Ghost1227 was messing with archuser.com and apparently broke all the sites.

Something that wasn't broken by Allan? Blasphemy!

Berseker · 2010-05-07 08:13:28

Kiwi wrote:

If pacman has already been translated into Italian there is not really a reason to as clyde can use pacman's .po files.

it seems not..

berseker@acerone ~ $ clyde -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
testing is up to date
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community-testing is up to date
community is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: gnome-keyring-sharp-svn: la versione installata (133722-1) è più recente di quella presente in community (87622-3)
local database is up to date
berseker@acerone ~ $ sudo pacman -Syu
:: Sincronizzazione dei database in corso...
testing è aggiornato
core è aggiornato
extra è aggiornato
community-testing è aggiornato
community è aggiornato
:: Aggiornamento del sistema in corso...
attenzione: gnome-keyring-sharp-svn: la versione installata (133722-1) è più recente di quella presente in community (87622-3)
Il database locale è aggiornato

Last edited by Berseker (2010-05-07 08:14:14)

Kiwi · 2010-05-07 09:20:01

That does not show that it does not work, in fact, it shows that it does. It just shows I am missing some gettext calls in the callbacks and warnings. >.>

Berseker · 2010-05-07 09:33:49

Kiwi wrote:

That does not show that it does not work, in fact, it shows that it does. It just shows I am missing some gettext calls in the callbacks and warnings. >.>

of course, I didn't mean to offend, or that it isn't working at all but in the test I made, the only thing that "shows that it does work" is the warning message. Every other word that could be translated, It's in English. Anyway, I understood that you miss only some gettext calls so np for me

please consider that I am reporting all these little "issues" only because I appreciate your job and I hope that in the future clyde will gain the same popularity that yaourt have built in the last years!

Last edited by Berseker (2010-05-07 09:39:14)

peets · 2010-05-10 04:04:11

I have nothing to contribute outside my gratitude and awe. Clyde (and cpanp) give me a complete, centralized package management solution. It's so fussless... you've done a great job and help make Arch the best.

quarkup · 2010-05-12 12:36:22

mcmillan wrote:

Seems to install all right for me. Running a 64bit Arch, didn't try to run anything on the virtualbox though

about that

clyde -S virtualbox_bin

I am using a i686 (x86) architecture, so I am not sure why makepkg works to build this package in i686 and clyde does not work for this package
(although clyde works as expected with other packages :s)

cookiecaper wrote:

Are there any plans for sudo autodetection like yaourt has, wherein yaourt automatically re-runs itself as sudo if the operation requires root permissions? I like that feature.

yaourt has no "real" autocompletion, actually it has the same autocompletion as pacman (for example, AUR stuff has no autocompletion when Syncing)

Basically I guess that clyde could install also its own "/etc/bash_completion.d/clyde" (somewhat a copy of /etc/bash_completion.d/pacman)

Berseker wrote:

i have this in my .bashrc
clyd() {
    case $1 in
        (-Ss | -Si | -Q* | -T)
            /usr/bin/clyde "$@" ;;
        (-S* | -R* | -U | *)
            /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/clyde "$@" || /bin/su -c /usr/bin/clyde "$@" || return $? ;;
    esac
}
I can't call the function "clyde" because if I do so, bash complains about it. Or am I missing something?
EDIT
I really do not know why, but I tried again to rename the function "clyde" and now i can source .bashrc without errors, Wtf?

basically you could have an alias for clyde (and when u have an alias and a function with the same name i guess that the bash will eval only the alias)

btw: for the -G and ownage/permissions

clyde() {
    case $1 in
        (-Ss | -Si | -Q* | -T | -G)
            /usr/bin/clyde "$@" ;;
        (-S* | -R* | -U | *)
            # don't use the pipes neither return (when I wrote that part i was not thinking in warnings and stuff)
            /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/clyde "$@" ;;
           # or if you do not use sudo, use the following
           #/bin/su -c /usr/bin/clyde "$@" ;;
    esac
}

Last edited by quarkup (2010-05-12 12:42:52)

Square · 2010-05-12 19:30:47

That function... why didn't I think of that? Why isn't that in the wiki? O.o

Good stuff. A+

Last edited by Square (2010-05-12 19:31:36)

Japanlinux · 2010-05-21 05:46:47

Forgive me for the stupid question, but how do I download and use clyde? i'm new to Arch. I got the pkgbuild from the clyde page and used the wiki's guide for makepkg. However, it gave me a program called Cower (???) instead of clyde... is there a better way to install clyde?

EDIT: lol.. on the AUR helpers page, I must have clicked the wrong program (cower instead of clyde) by accident. I went to the clyde page again and it's pkgbuild was definitely called clyde-git.

Regardless, is there an easier way to install Clyde without having to use makepkg?

Last edited by Japanlinux (2010-05-21 05:52:43)

lymphatik · 2010-05-21 06:19:59

Japanlinux wrote:

Forgive me for the stupid question, but how do I download and use clyde? i'm new to Arch. I got the pkgbuild from the clyde page and used the wiki's guide for makepkg. However, it gave me a program called Cower (???) instead of clyde... is there a better way to install clyde?
EDIT: lol.. on the AUR helpers page, I must have clicked the wrong program (cower instead of clyde) by accident. I went to the clyde page again and it's pkgbuild was definitely called clyde-git.
Regardless, is there an easier way to install Clyde without having to use makepkg?

Well once you have installed clyde with makepkg just use clyde to install everything from aur. Have a look there http://clyde.archuser.com/usage/ for help or man clyde.

For example if you want to update clyde just do

clyde clyde

or if you want to update all the app installed from aur

clyde -Syu --aur

Remember "man" is often faster than "google" if you know what to use ^^

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