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#1 2010-05-09 06:53:08

hcra1
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install w/o internet connection

well i have a problem regarding my nic not being found, so i wanted to just install a desktop environment so i can download my nic's drivers, but since i dont have access to the net i cannot pacman -Sy to install packages. is there a way i can install packages--specifically xfce--since i have arch's core install?? im kind of new to linux, so please excuse my ignorance

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#2 2010-05-09 07:29:39

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Re: install w/o internet connection

You will need another computer to download either [1] the network driver or [2] the whole xfce package group.

For me it seems easier to download and configure the drivers first, and then let pacman work as normal smile

What driver is missing?

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#3 2010-05-09 19:25:00

hcra1
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Re: install w/o internet connection

well im having exactly this problem. http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=92829
it seems, however, that he has already installed arch and a desktop environment, which is easier because he shows a fix at the end. i cannot do this, though, because i don't know how to install a desktop environment. i could download the drivers from another computer, but then how would i get it to my arch hdd? i installed arch on my hdd, and im on that menu where it shows Arch and Arch fallback.

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#4 2010-05-09 19:34:14

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Re: install w/o internet connection

What cd did you try to install from? Maybe one of the new test builds works?


Evil #archlinux@libera.chat channel op and general support dude.
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#5 2010-05-09 19:55:07

toffyrn
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Re: install w/o internet connection

hcra1 wrote:

but then how would i get it to my arch hdd?

Burn it on a cd or memory card or anything similar... smile
(If i understand you correct you will have to do that anyway!?)

After that you can compile the driver, install it and bring up your network.
And at last do the fun and simple part: pacman -S xfce4

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#6 2010-05-09 20:45:01

hcra1
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Re: install w/o internet connection

Mr.Elendig wrote:

What cd did you try to install from? Maybe one of the new test builds works?

iso/2009.08/archlinux-2009.08-core-x86_64.iso
that one

im really a noob at linux, so i dont know what to do. i believe if i can install a desktop environment i can easily install the drivers, but the problem is installing a desktop environment first. how would i get it through another usb if i dont have a desktop environment?
sorry if i dont make much sense, im new to linux ;\

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#7 2010-05-09 20:50:16

Kooothor
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Re: install w/o internet connection

hcra1 wrote:

im really a noob at linux

hcra1 wrote:

im new to linux ;\

My advice would be to start with another distro, as Arch is (imho) as good as you are.

I mean :
— If you're skilled at cli and know your way around a gnu/linux, then arch might suit you. (Arch is a 'good' distro)
— If you're a novice, then Arch won't suit you. (Arch suxx)

I took me several month to be able to enjoy an Arch install. I had to learn 'things' with others distros first.

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#8 2010-05-09 20:53:57

hcra1
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Re: install w/o internet connection

Kooothor wrote:
hcra1 wrote:

im really a noob at linux

hcra1 wrote:

im new to linux ;\

My advice would be to start with another distro, as Arch is (imho) as good as you are.

I mean :
— If you're skilled at cli and know your way around a gnu/linux, then arch might suit you. (Arch is a 'good' distro)
— If you're a novice, then Arch won't suit you. (Arch suxx)

I took me several month to be able to enjoy an Arch install. I had to learn 'things' with others distros first.

fair enough. just thought id learn on the way, but apparently thats not the way it works! lol thanks

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#9 2010-05-09 21:07:38

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Re: install w/o internet connection

sure you can learn on the way - first thing, figure out how to use commandline (mounting, installing etc). for this basic stuff the forums are not the place though. information is all over the web, use google and prepare for a lot of reading.

and of course - arch wiki...

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#10 2010-05-09 21:28:28

Kooothor
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Re: install w/o internet connection

hcra1 wrote:

but apparently thats not the way it works!

It's just a piece of advice, not the universal truth wink


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#11 2010-05-10 09:19:40

toffyrn
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Re: install w/o internet connection

I used linux for some years before i managed to configure arch in a satisfying way...
(On my 3rd attempt tongue)

So it is possible to learn on the way, but be aware, you will need taco...

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#12 2010-05-10 10:00:58

yabasta
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Re: install w/o internet connection

forgive me for butting in, but have you considered a distro called ArchBang ? http://archbang.org/Main/Features
It combines arch linux with the openbox window manager preconfigured. Sort of gives you a head start with arch in the openbox direction, which is quite lightweight. I'd agree with the folks here though, dip into other distros before you try an arch install. I'd spent a few months with fedora and debian before i tried arch, and it was still quite a learning curve. That said, if you're determined to learn linux and arch as you go, the archwiki is a great resource for all your questions.

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