Need help downgradin to older kernel version

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 10:02:05

Want to use older 190.53 nvidia drivers. What Kernel version do I need. Latest one of the working if you know what I mean.

Thanks
Jabb3r

Moderator edit - thread title changed to remove attempted insult. tomk

Last edited by Jabb3r (2010-05-14 10:49:55)

Ramses de Norre · 2010-05-14 10:08:47

Hey you can always roll out your own distro if you think you would do a better job!

This is not a correct attitude towards volunteers who spend their free time working on your operating system.

KimTjik · 2010-05-14 10:11:22

I don't understand whether you're trolling or what the purpose of your post is. Anyway a few responses:

- to be able to roll back using cached packages isn't supplementary knowledge but something you should learn if you choose Arch
- there's no way to test all possible hardware configurations in combination with software, hence some buggy stuff will hit some few users
- if you now learnt something you're making progress and next time you'll fix it even quicker, so why be upset?

demian · 2010-05-14 10:13:13

I think i speak for the great devs when i say: you're welcome.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dow … g_Packages

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 10:17:48

I just need things to be working and I'm miffed I have to spend time fixin it. I know theres lots of configurations and no I couldn't do a better job, but this is just somethin I don't need right now and both my systems use arch. I aint gonna update this one cause I've lil faith that I'll be left with a working system after the process.

Update is update, not Do you want to Break your system and spend the next day fixin it (If I even can). I aint shy of readin, but you must understand this has stopped me dead in my tracks and I needed to vent.
The arch wiki for the kernel stuff looks a ball ache too. It's not a good day.

jasonwryan · 2010-05-14 10:17:52

Jabb3r wrote:

...shockin...working...doin...everythin...helpin...puttin...working...testin...

Well, at least something is working.

ngoonee · 2010-05-14 10:19:03

Jabb3r wrote:

I don't understand how such severe things aint caught in testin.

Perhaps because users with systems like yours aren't using it. Here's a suggestion, why not use [testing] and make life easier for everyone instead of complaining that other volunteers aren't making your life easier.

Allan · 2010-05-14 10:32:24

Easiest solution I see is for you to piss off and use a stable distro. What do you expect for a distro that defines itself as bleeding edge?

Rasi · 2010-05-14 10:46:26

Jabb3r wrote:

I just need things to be working and I'm miffed I have to spend time fixin it. I know theres lots of configurations and no I couldn't do a better job, but this is just somethin I don't need right now and both my systems use arch. I aint gonna update this one cause I've lil faith that I'll be left with a working system after the process.
Update is update, not Do you want to Break your system and spend the next day fixin it (If I even can). I aint shy of readin, but you must understand this has stopped me dead in my tracks and I needed to vent.
The arch wiki for the kernel stuff looks a ball ache too. It's not a good day.

a) if you havent kept your package cache its your own fault.
b) this is a rolling release distro - such things WILL happen. Dont update if you dont want this to happen.
c) your tone is VERY unapproriate - do you really expect help, when you yell in such a way?

apart from that: ever done a upgrade on a ubuntu system? good luck that it starts at all afterwards...

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 10:47:05

Trust me I get your points and I am signed upto the AUR etc. I don't want to pee people off, but it's just a really bad time for this to happen, I know this might sound cheeky, but can anyone tell be the last kernel version I can use the 190.53's with. Is it any of the 2.6.32's?

And btw I still like arch I don't want another distro I've learned the most using this one I'm just a bit screwed till I can get goin again properly and it got to me. Apologies

ngoonee · 2010-05-14 10:51:31

Jabb3r wrote:

And btw I still like arch I don't want another distro I've learned the most using this one I'm just a bit screwed till I can get goin again properly and it got to me. Apologies

Well, learn this next thing, in Arch you're expected to know what to do IF something breaks. Which doesn't happen often, but WHEN it does you should know what to do.

And no, posting this sort of thread is not on the 'what-to-do' list, this isn't primarily a newbie distro.

hokasch · 2010-05-14 10:51:50

http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … &peg=71320

pkgname=nvidia
pkgver=190.53
_kernver='2.6.33-ARCH'
pkgrel=2
pkgdesc="NVIDIA drivers for kernel26."
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
[ "$CARCH" = "i686" ] && ARCH=x86
[ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && ARCH=x86_64
url="http://www.nvidia.com/"
depends=('kernel26>=2.6.33' 'kernel26<2.6.34' "nvidia-utils=${pkgver}")
makedepends=('kernel26-headers>=2.6.33' 'kernel26-headers<2.6.34')

take care, there is a 190.53-2 for older kernels as well, because of a downgrade

Last edited by hokasch (2010-05-14 10:59:28)

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 11:00:02

So thats a PKGBUILD script I can install?

Do I use your version or the longer one from the link. I've lost me way completely atm sorry. I'm guessin link. I'll try it. Thanks alot.

hokasch · 2010-05-14 11:08:26

No get the package, (-> downgrade wiki page), but make sure it is the newer 190.53-2. Of course you may as well digg into building it yourself, while you're at it... The wiki has the details about makepkg
here are the files:
http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … &peg=71320

my point was that you do not need to downgrade the kernel, since there is a 190.53 package for 2.633 (as you can see from above PKGBUILD snippet)

arch packages search -> svn(trunk) -> view log:
http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … g&isdir=1&

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Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 11:19:22

Oh ok. Just ge the official pkg2.run script then. I tried the PKGBUILD but got a

==> ERROR: Install scriptlet (nvidia.install) does not exist.

So I'll get the newer package and try that one. I appreciate the help

wonder · 2010-05-14 11:23:17

here is the patch for 190.53 to compile against 2.6.33: http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … &peg=71320

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 11:33:47

Ok ok lol

I'm confused now.

What do I need to do to get 190.53-2 working on my sys without changing kernel version. What do I need to read.

Also is there a way I can d/l'd the kernel source though pacman

Thanks
Jabb3r

hokasch · 2010-05-14 11:38:09

hokasch wrote:

here are the files:
http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/package … ;peg=71320

there is a download link on that page...

also, nvidia-utils has to be the same version as nvidia. look at my edit above for how to get the files for building the package.

take a deep breath, and read #14 once more, please... you do not need to build the packages yourself if you can find it somewhere.

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Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 11:57:09

Ok I got the files to makepkg on the driver. I need to find the utils package to go with it as you said.

that svn site is a lil confusin. I finally got what the number were for. I thought it was a broken url for a bit, lol

hokasch · 2010-05-14 12:03:22

it is a broken url - quoted myself there...
you better start with the package search on the arch homepage.

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 12:54:04

Yeh it was, but yu can use the number to find files on the svn page. Anyhoo this is where I'm @

I had no idea about the cache system which is good cause it means I've never cleaned it to make room. So I managed to get the old nvidia-utils installed via that.

I then built the 190.53-2 from pkgbuild and also seemed to successfully install that with pacman too, but I'm getting a no drivers found error. If I modprobe nvidia it tells me "nvidia module not found", but I installed through pacman -U so I aint sure whats going on now.

Edit: I done some quick thinking and is it that my kernel module is now newer than the driver I'm usin so they won't play ball kinda thing?

Can I replace the module with an older one?

Last edited by Jabb3r (2010-05-14 12:59:33)

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 14:14:13

I put things back so I could post some more details before trying again.

this is the error I'm getting when trying to startx with older drivers....

(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your
(EE) NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

installing the newer with pacman went fine with a modprobe nvidia | reboot afterwards. Just baffled howto get goin with the older ones.

Cheers

hokasch · 2010-05-14 15:03:32

no idea. for the sake of it, I build nvidia rev 71320 and -utils 71309, installed them with -Ud and am still booting up fine into X.

(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your system's kernel log for additional error messages.

flamelab · 2010-05-14 15:56:15

Jabb3r wrote:

Want to use older 190.53 nvidia drivers. What Kernel version do I need. Latest one of the working if you know what I mean.
Thanks
Jabb3r
Moderator edit - thread title changed to remove attempted insult. tomk

No reason to do that.

Jabb3r · 2010-05-14 15:56:33

I can get X going when I need it. Just aint having much look with the older drivers cause the new crawl when 3D is needed.

I had a look @ dropping down to 2.6.32.13. I used the PKGBUILD method and everythin got built successfully. But I'm getting an error when using pacman -U to install it. I'll update this post with it so you can see. If it aint 1 thing it's another lol

Here we go

[jabb3r@beast linux-2.6.32.13]$ sudo pacman -U kernel26-my-2.6.32.13-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
loading package data...
checking dependencies...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [#####################] 100%
(1/1) upgrading kernel26-my                         [#####################] 100%
>>> Updating module dependencies...
>>> Creating initial ramdisk...
mkinitcpio: usage
  -c CONFIG        Use CONFIG file. default: /etc/mkinitcpio.conf
  -k KERNELVERSION Use KERNELVERSION. default: 2.6.33-ARCH
  -s NAME          Save filelist. default: no
  -b BASEDIR       Use BASEDIR. default: /
  -g IMAGE         Generate a cpio image as IMAGE. default: no
  -a NAME          Append to an existing filelist. default: no
  -p PRESET        Build specified preset.
  -m MESSAGE       Print MESSAGE before passing control to init.
  -S SKIPHOOKS     Skip SKIPHOOKS (comma-separated) when building the image.
  -v               Verbose output. Default: no
  -M               Display modules found via autodetection.
  -L               List all available hooks.
  -H HOOKNAME      Output help for hook 'HOOKNAME'.
  -h               This message.
/tmp/alpm_tgAAc9/.INSTALL: line 17: /boot/kernel26.img: Permission denied
error: command failed to execute correctly

I've looked in the /boot dir and theres no new kernel there so it deffo aint doing what it supposed to

Edit:

I tried changing the permissions of the /boot/kernel26.img, but that just resulted in a new error

/tmp/alpm_aynt0x/.INSTALL: line 17: /boot/kernel26.img: cannot execute binary file
error: command failed to execute correctly

I'm out of ideas
Anyone?

Last edited by Jabb3r (2010-05-14 16:24:58)

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