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KViiri

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Registered: 2009-06-10

Posts: 32

Re: Curses problem with Wine

Sorry I'm a bit confused so I'll jot down the facts here : I have a x86-64 Arch Linux, and since there isn't x86-64 Wine in ABS and the AUR bin32-version didn't work (or actually worked fine otherwise but wasn't able to use curses), I think it's best to just wait and see if the x86-64 works better.

FrozenFox

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From: College Station, TX

Registered: 2008-03-23

Posts: 422

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Re: Curses problem with Wine

If by 'better' you mean has ncurses support, that's unlikely. If regular i686 wine doesn't have it built-in, x86_64 wine would probably not either. It would not make sense for Arch to have two packages of the same program built with different capabilities. It pretty much never happens.

Like the previous poster said though, Arch's x86_64 wine (as opposed to bin32-wine, 32 bit wine for running on 64 bit) will *only* run 64 bit programs, rendering it useless for many programs. I highly doubt that's what you want, but I don't know what your intentions are either.

"Since there isn't x86-64 wine in abs" gives off at least the impression that you didn't read my prior posts clearly or misunderstood.. I said there wasn't an x86_64 wine in ABS; you would have to go into a 32 bit environment/install and both get AND compile wine from there. I've done it quite a few times. After you did that from a 32 bit environment, you would go back to 64 bit and take the output from what you just did and plug it into the AUR bin32-wine pkgbuild. In your list of things you tried before giving up that didn't work, you give no indication at all you tried it that way as was suggested..

Anyway.. that's enough fun for me..

Last edited by FrozenFox (2009-06-26 06:17:53)

KViiri

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Registered: 2009-06-10

Posts: 32

Re: Curses problem with Wine

I messed up my system trying to setup chroot (probably clogged the root partition or something) and I'm rather reluctant to try again. I'm going to try compiling the source one more time and if that doesn't work I'll let it be.

EDIT: I'll just wait for the X86-64 compatible to be released. Whwn that happens, it will probably find it's way in ABS, and I don't have to start messing with chroot. I'm in no hurry.

Last edited by KViiri (2009-06-30 07:28:34)

measure

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Registered: 2009-07-17

Posts: 62

Re: Curses problem with Wine

Edit: Searching around it seems like there is an libncurses-devel for other distributions?  I am not sure if this is perhaps the problem.  Also, it just hit me how funny the title of this thread is: Curses problem with Wine.  Haven't we all lamented alcoholism and become angry!

First, sorry for bringing back a somewhat old topic.  But all of the information is here, so, why make another?

IE: In a 32 bit chroot or installation,
1) grab the Wine source from ABS
2) edit it with the desired configure flags
3) compile that with makepkg (you might want to install this to test curses support before #4 if on a 32b install!)
4) grab bin32-wine from AUR
5) plug the binary from #3 into the bin32-wine pkgbuild (unchanged) as the source (comment out the md5sum if there)
.. The resulting binary from THAT would be what you want, to transfer to your 64 bit install, for usual installation with pacman -U.

This would undoubtedly be a pain in the ass, and a little complicated, so I don't know if it's really worth the effort. If you want to though, there's a guide for setting up a 32 bit chroot in the wiki, OR you can just install normal 32 bit to another partition. Either way, you'd do so and then continue as previously mentioned.

I also desire wineconsole with ncurses support (either this, or a way to copy text from a wineconsole terminal and paste it into a regular terminal).  Anyway, I am attempting to follow these instructions, as I am using x86_64.  I believe I have correctly set up the chroot Arch32 environment.  I grabbed the source from ABS, and I added the --with-curses to ./configure command.  I believe this is the correct option, but it has produced another problem, which is probably relatively easy to fix...I just am not sure how.

This seems like the important part to me...

checking for -lncurses... not found
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configure: error: lib(n)curses 32-bit development files not found, curses won't be supported.
This is an error since --with-curses was requested.

This is everything, just for the hell of it...

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checking hal/libhal.h presence... no
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checking gnutls/gnutls.h usability... yes
checking gnutls/gnutls.h presence... yes
checking for gnutls/gnutls.h... yes
checking for -lgnutls... libgnutls.so.26
checking for -lncurses... not found
checking for mousemask... no
configure: error: lib(n)curses 32-bit development files not found, curses won't be supported.
This is an error since --with-curses was requested.
make: *** No rule to make target `depend'.  Stop.
==> ERROR: Build Failed.
    Aborting...

This makes me believe that --with-curses is the proper option.  What I am not sure of is where the ncurses library is, and furthermore, once knowing where it is, how to tell it that it is there.  Everything you guys have recommended thus far has been really helpful, so I am sure this won't be too difficult for you guys.

Thanks,
Ryan

Last edited by measure (2010-01-26 10:16:43)

measure

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Re: Curses problem with Wine

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measure

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Re: Curses problem with Wine

Well, with the help of #archlinux and #winehq on irc.freenode.net, some progress has been made identifying the problem.  I will try to describe the problem as I understand, but I do not completely know what is going on.  Basically, when wine asks for the library which is associated with -lncurses, my environment returns libncursesw.so, but wine is expecting something like libncurses.so, therefore it fails.  Indeed when I changed the configure script to look for it with the w, it made it through the entire configure script; however, I was warned that I should not compile with libncursesw.so.  So basically, now I have the problem of changing the system to return libncurses.so instead of libncursesw.so.

Everyone in both communities has been extremely helpful thus far, and I feel bad that I have to constantly ask for help.  However, once this has all been figured out, I will give back to the arch community and add to the wiki detailing what worked for me.

Thanks,
Ryan

measure

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Re: Curses problem with Wine

Well, I decided to compile with libnucrsesw.so just to see what happens, and I am happy to say I now have a wine that uses ncurses!  Should there be anything done in regards to the wiki or the 32bit-wine package (for instance it could change the line that I changed in the configure file?)  I really don't know anything about anything about anything!, but I can imagine that someone somewhere might also want this (e.g. the person that started this thread).  In brief, this is what I did:

1) create a 32-bit environment with chroot exactly as the wiki says.
2) get the wine source from ABS
3) change the following line in /src/wine-1.1.37/configure

*) ac_cv_lib_soname_ncurses=`$ac_cv_path_LDD conftest$ac_exeext | grep "libncurses\\.$LIBEXT" | sed -e "s/^.*\(libncurses\.$LIBEXT[^     ]*\).*$/\1/"';2,$d'` ;;

to

*) ac_cv_lib_soname_ncurses=`$ac_cv_path_LDD conftest$ac_exeext | grep "libncursesw\\.$LIBEXT" | sed -e "s/^.*\(libncursesw\.$LIBEXT[^     ]*\).*$/\1/"';2,$d'` ;;

(I.e. added w to the libncurses)

4) compile normally

I cannot say that this will work for everyone obviously, but it has for me.  When I now run

wineconsole --backend=curses blah/blah/blah

I get a curses environment as opposed to the more windows-like "command prompt".

Thanks,
Ryan

Sekra

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From: Finland

Registered: 2008-01-25

Posts: 14

Re: Curses problem with Wine

Sorry for reviving this rather old post but I'm also having difficulties doing this. Now I dont know how and dont care to chroot to a 32bit system but I do have a separate 32bit archlinux machine available for me, I have downloaded, edited as above and managed to get wine working like that (actually I did it without X and with curses but anyhow) on the 32bit machine it works perfectly. Now the problem arises when I move it to the x86_64 and "plug in" the wine from the 32bit system to the bin32-wine and install that.. Everything goes smoothly up to the point where (I used pacman -U as root to install the custom bin32-wine) as a "normal" user I try to run wineconsole --backend=curses blabla.. it gives me this error:

wine: failed to initialize: /path/I/usedToCompile/in/32bit/archlinux/abs/wine/pkg/usr/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied

naturally this is a problem since that path doesnt exist on the x86_64 system and the files are located in /usr/lib/wine/ so how do I point wine to look in there instead?

Edit: and since I'm not very good at linux I will explain in detail what I did to get this far since I might have made some stupid mistake also:

in a i686 Archlinux:

1. installed abs
2. copied wine from the /var/abs/extra/wine to a custom location
3. edited the PKGBUILD to remove --with-x and added --with-curses
4. ran makepkg and it failed to install with ncurses
5. edited the configure file in /path/I/usedToCompile/in/32bit/archlinux/abs/wine/src/ to add the w like mentioned in the previous post
6. ran makepkg -ef to rebuild it
7. installed as root with pacman -U
8. tested and program ran fine

moved the .tar.gz that I used with the pacman -U to the x86_64 system

in a x86_64 Archlinux:

8. got bin32-wine from AUR
9. edited the PKGBUILD to use my custom wine package from the 32bit system
10. ran makepkg and all built fine
11. installed as root with pacman -U
12. tried to run the same app as in the 32bit system as a normal user and got the above error

Last edited by Sekra (2010-05-26 18:08:46)

Sekra

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Registered: 2008-01-25

Posts: 14

Re: Curses problem with Wine

Oddly enough I decided to try again from scratch and this time it works for one reason or another.. O.o