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#1 2006-06-23 22:21:27

Lone_Wolf
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An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Lately the number of virtual appliances for vmware is increasing, and there are many linux distro's present (debian, ubuntu, red hat, fedora to name a few).

From Aur votes for the vmware packages and posts on the forum it looks like  there is a substantial amount of users who run vmware on archlinux.
I think creating one (or more  tongue ) vm's based on arch and submitting them to vmware could help archlinux to become better known, and show people you DON'T NEED TO BE AN EXPERT LINUX USER to run this great distro.

Any ideas how we can show off archlinux' strong points in a virtual machine ?


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#2 2006-07-21 18:00:05

campylobacter
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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

I like your idee. Did you have created some VM´s?

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#3 2006-07-21 22:18:15

Ryujin
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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

I agree, I think one with a base install would be good too, a little one, and then a configured full blown KDE/Gnome one with vmware-tools installed

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#4 2006-07-23 03:46:23

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

how/where do you submit a VM..? I happen to have VMware workstation on my work (windows) so it's pretty easy for me to make new VMs and I was planning to install Archlinux on it anyway.


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#5 2006-07-23 04:12:59

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#6 2006-09-13 21:46:07

allucid
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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Does anyone have one yet to share? You can put up a torrent if you don't have access to an FTP/Server. The disk image probably only needs to be ~8 GB and an image with just the base Arch system installed should be quite a bit smaller.

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#7 2006-09-14 06:26:11

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

just make one yourself, wouldnt be very difficult at all and would take an hour at most. use vmware-server to make it, and install with an iso.

dont make an 8gb image, vmware has an option to make growing images that only take up the space they need.

James

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#8 2006-09-14 15:04:47

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Atm there is a problem with installing vmware tools.
The tools from workstation 5.5.1 don't work with Xorg 7.

This would mean higher resolutions, faster screen, smooth mouse and shared folders don't work.

I intend to try the tools from the lastest vmware server and workstation versions with Xorg 7.1 this weekend.
If i succeed, we could then make an image for a basic install including Xorg 7.1 / twm .


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#9 2006-09-14 18:46:58

allucid
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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

iphitus wrote:

just make one yourself, wouldnt be very difficult at all and would take an hour at most. use vmware-server to make it, and install with an iso.

dont make an 8gb image, vmware has an option to make growing images that only take up the space they need.

James

Ooops. I didn't know that vmware server had a trial version.

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#10 2006-09-15 07:20:38

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

allucid wrote:
iphitus wrote:

just make one yourself, wouldnt be very difficult at all and would take an hour at most. use vmware-server to make it, and install with an iso.

dont make an 8gb image, vmware has an option to make growing images that only take up the space they need.

James

Ooops. I didn't know that vmware server had a trial version.

vmware server is free (beer)

and as for sharing files between systems, you can always give NFS a shot.

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#11 2006-09-20 09:13:58

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Yesterday i finished installing vmware-tools from workstation 5.5.2 in an arch virtual machine with only 1 minor problem (the high speed network driver) and updated the wiki.

I thought we could start preparing vm's , but since we are now switching to kernel 2.6.18 i´ll have to repeat the vmware-tools install to see if  the kernel change poses problems.

To be continued ..


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#12 2006-09-20 21:05:22

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Ok, looks like i was a bit to pessimistic.

I just installed the 2.6.18 kernel from testing without problems and also got vmware-tools installed without problems. I think i also got the highspeed vmxnet driver setup correctly and updated the wiki.

Now we can get to work making arch virtual appliances.


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#13 2006-10-22 19:48:18

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Archlinux VM basic install

- kernel 2.6.18.1-2
- root pw : KISS
- pacman mirror is set to belnet.be
- vmware tools NOT installed


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#14 2009-02-06 08:01:21

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

hello. im pretty new here, but have lurked and read-up to get me trough my Arch Virtual Machine.
And for the most part, i havent had too many issues with getting a good install stable in VMware fusion 2.0.1

The host is Macbook Pro (1,1) coreduo 2ghz 2 gb Radeo X1600

I was really suprised and overjoyed when VMware-tools installed full Mac-functions to the synaptics trackpad, with the right Xorg.  So far Arch is my favorite Linux i have used. I spend two weeks fiddling with Gentoo + VmWare fusion previously, and the i686 version of Gentoo didnt seem to be as agreeable with the configuration.

So far the only completely obscure problem i have not been able to solve is getting the 1440x900 sreen rez to take.

also, having "snapshots" on hand of a linux-install is world-saving. Go VMware!
i'd send them a snapshot if it would help.

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#15 2009-02-06 12:13:16

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

Why not a VirtualBox image? VMware have too many problems with arch.

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#16 2009-02-10 13:49:49

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

why not both ?
Diversity is always better

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#17 2010-06-05 17:58:11

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

even wrote:

Why not a VirtualBox image? VMware have too many problems with arch.

As a senior kernel developer at VMware I can say that VMware have no problems with arch.  A lot of us (and smart Linux users generally) prefer Arch.  I think getting VMware workstation running on Arch isn't that pain free probably, but it is just the result of the fact that most Arch users just do whatever steps seemed necessary to get it working locally and don't fix the packages.

Next time I start with a fresh Arch system, and put a copy of VMware Workstation on it (first thing I do on any system) I will document the process and try to fix the packages or whatever needs to be done to make the process smoother for people unfamiliar with VMware workstation (or Linux).

Cheers

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#18 2010-06-08 12:13:01

thisllub
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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

This is a resurrection.

I wouldn't bother with VMWare workstation.
qemu-kvm is easier and faster.
Setting up a bridge in Arch is easier than any other Linux I have tried so networking is a breeze.

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#19 2010-06-28 07:42:43

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

nosatalian wrote:
even wrote:

Why not a VirtualBox image? VMware have too many problems with arch.

As a senior kernel developer at VMware I can say that VMware have no problems with arch.  A lot of us (and smart Linux users generally) prefer Arch.  I think getting VMware workstation running on Arch isn't that pain free probably, but it is just the result of the fact that most Arch users just do whatever steps seemed necessary to get it working locally and don't fix the packages.

Next time I start with a fresh Arch system, and put a copy of VMware Workstation on it (first thing I do on any system) I will document the process and try to fix the packages or whatever needs to be done to make the process smoother for people unfamiliar with VMware workstation (or Linux).

Cheers

Ditto ... I have an Arch VM that runs flawlessly.  Could not for the life of me get the 7.10 VMTools to install.  The scripts always segfaulted on me, so I used open-vm-tools.

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#20 2010-07-03 09:31:35

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Re: An archlinux virtual appliance for vmware ?

I second making a VirtualBox image. I moved from windows to Linux in order to have a more or less OSS system. I don't want to go back to having closed system, and VirtualBox, like it or not, is the best OSS VM you can get. Also, VirtualBox doesn't weigh the ridiculous 1.5 GB (VMWare does).

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