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#1 2010-06-16 03:59:05

ernesto
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x86-64 Flash

I'm still a 32bit holdout. The #1 reason is because 64bit Flash on Linux was an even more of a POS than regular 32bit Flash. I don't know how they managed it, but they did. When watching videos fullscreen CPU usage spiked, cursor movement lagged, and the video stuttered. Also, most of the time it didn't register mouse clicks.

Flash on 32bit is still a pig but it's nowhere near as unholy. The video doesn't stutter and mouse doesn't become unresponsive. I'm confident it's not just my hardware (PhenomII,9800GT) since it runs fine on 32bit linux and 32/64 Windows.

The last time I tried 64bit arch was some time mid-2009. Has the situation changed or is the same as ever?

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#2 2010-06-16 04:00:38

Anikom15
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Re: x86-64 Flash

x86-64 flash is dead at least until version 11.


Personally, I'd rather be back in Hobbiton.

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#3 2010-06-16 04:01:02

Allan
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Probably got worse....  http://www.archlinux.org/news/501/

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#4 2010-06-16 04:15:23

ernesto
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Wonderful. roll This is one of the reasons why I try to avoid proprietary software on Linux. Flash seems to be the Achilles heel of my system.

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#5 2010-06-16 04:19:59

theapodan
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Re: x86-64 Flash

I haven't tried this yet, but looks like I will eventually have to as a result of the news item mentioned above.
[wiki]Install_32bit_Flash_on_a_64bit_System[/wiki]

It appears to involve some package called nspluginwrapper as an intermediary.  Maybe someone with some experience with this will chime in.

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#6 2010-06-16 06:30:26

Cr0k
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Maybe some new opensource projects will born.. I really hope this smile

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#7 2010-06-16 06:36:15

benob
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Re: x86-64 Flash

What append to Adobe? Did they fire all their Linux/x86_64 engineers to port Flash to the iPad and get that doorslam from the fruit company?

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#8 2010-06-16 09:46:42

Cr0k
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Re: x86-64 Flash

@benob : Don't tell that ! Afaik it's possible tongue

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#9 2010-06-16 12:32:02

Banton
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Re: x86-64 Flash

After x64 Suppprt from Adobe is gone, I went back to nspluginwrapper. Wiki articel is a little bit outdated, you need nspluginwrapper-debian, because nspluginwrapper in AUR is  really old. Flash working fine now, only one problem in some flash apps my mouse doesn't work, for example on youtube I can't say Play or Stop. This is really annoying. Anyone got the same problem or knows if it's possible to fix?

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#10 2010-06-16 14:18:47

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Re: x86-64 Flash

Neither GNASH nor SWF-Dec nor lib32-flashplugin nor anything else works.

What should i do now? Switch back to Gentoo? Run a Virtual Machine to watch Flash Videos?

//Edit

aur/nspluginwrapper-flash works fine smile

even mouse-clicking

Last edited by Vamp898 (2010-06-16 14:21:49)

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#11 2010-06-16 14:23:37

Perry3D
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Why should the flashplugin in Gentoo be better?

Run the risk and use the old flashplugin in combination with flashblock or similar.

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#12 2010-06-16 14:30:13

Vamp898
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Re: x86-64 Flash

on Arch there is no flashplugin vor x86_64 anymore.

Even no old one so completely no flash!

On Gentoo theres the old one^^

but as already mentioned the aur/nspluginwrapper-flash works flawless

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#13 2010-06-16 15:00:10

Banton
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Vamp898 what was your way? I get no click support sad
I installed aur/nspluginwrapper-debian, aur/nspluginwrapper-flash, then nspluginwrapper -v -a -i, installed correctly. But unfortunatly no mouse clicking...

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#14 2010-06-16 15:04:28

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Re: x86-64 Flash

i just did this

first remove everything that have to do with flash, then

yaourt -S nspluginwrapper-flash

then

nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

which gave errors to me and still does

Auto-install plugins from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
Looking for plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
*** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/skypebuttons.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Install plugin /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
  into /home/vamp898//.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
*** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
*** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libvlcplugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Auto-install plugins from /home/vamp898//.mozilla/plugins
Looking for plugins in /home/vamp898//.mozilla/plugins

but the errors are not related to flashplayer

than it just worked (i only tested in Chromium and Firefox)

//Edit: Im on KDE 4.4.4

Last edited by Vamp898 (2010-06-16 15:05:07)

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#15 2010-06-16 15:36:35

flamelab
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Τhe ELF class errors are because they are 64bit plugins, nothing to worry.

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#16 2010-06-16 15:56:01

Vamp898
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Yes. They dont have to work with nspluginwrapper becease they are already 64bit

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#17 2010-06-16 16:34:43

qwer1234
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Banton wrote:

Flash working fine now, only one problem in some flash apps my mouse doesn't work, for example on youtube I can't say Play or Stop. This is really annoying. Anyone got the same problem or knows if it's possible to fix?

1. sudo gedit /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer

2.

#!/bin/sh
TARGET_OS=linux
TARGET_ARCH=i386
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
. /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/noarch/npviewer.sh

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#18 2010-06-16 16:59:52

spiridow
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Re: x86-64 Flash

qwer1234 wrote:
Banton wrote:

Flash working fine now, only one problem in some flash apps my mouse doesn't work, for example on youtube I can't say Play or Stop. This is really annoying. Anyone got the same problem or knows if it's possible to fix?

1. sudo gedit /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer

2.

#!/bin/sh
TARGET_OS=linux
TARGET_ARCH=i386
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
. /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/noarch/npviewer.sh

Thanks for this. Works perfectly. You should add it to the wiki, by the way.

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#19 2010-06-16 17:23:12

combuster
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Well swfdec-mozilla runs ok on midori and youtube.

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#20 2010-06-16 17:46:28

Banton
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Great qwer1234!! Worked, now I'm happy smile

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#21 2010-06-16 17:58:52

ozar
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Re: x86-64 Flash

Vamp898 wrote:

on Arch there is no flashplugin vor x86_64 anymore.

Even no old one so completely no flash!

You can still get it here:

http://schlunix.org/archlinux/extra/os/x86_64/

...or at least you could as I was typing this.  big_smile


oz

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#22 2010-06-16 19:05:39

Cerebral
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Re: x86-64 Flash

We've got three threads discussing x86-64 flash.   Please see

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=98904

To continue discussion

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