The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Gooler · 2010-06-21 06:46:10

I'm trying to upgrade right now but I get this warning:

:: xf86-input-evdev tiene conflictos con xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix. ¿Quitar xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix? [S/n]

This is the full list of packages to upgrade, I've been using catalyst for 64bit repo until now:

==> Package upgrade only (new release):
catalyst/catalyst 10.6-1 1 -> 2
core/coreutils 8.5-1 1 -> 2
core/gcc-libs 4.5.0-4 4 -> 6
core/libmpc 0.8.2-1 1 -> 2
core/gcc 4.5.0-4 4 -> 6
extra/libao 1.0.0-1 1 -> 2
extra/rasqal 0.9.19-1 1 -> 2
extra/sdl 1.2.14-4 4 -> 5
extra/xf86-input-keyboard 1.4.0-1 1 -> 2
extra/xf86-input-mouse 1.5.0-1 1 -> 2
extra/xf86-video-vesa 2.3.0-1 1 -> 2

==> Software upgrade (new version) :
core/udev 151-3 -> 157-1
core/mkinitcpio 0.6.4-1 -> 0.6.6-1
core/kernel26 2.6.33.4-1 -> 2.6.34-2
core/kernel26-headers 2.6.33.4-1 -> 2.6.34-2
core/mpfr 2.4.2-2 -> 3.0.0-1
core/initscripts 2010.05-3 -> 2010.06-2
extra/dri2proto 2.1-2 -> 2.3-1
extra/libdrm 2.4.19-2 -> 2.4.21-1
extra/libtiff 3.9.2-2 -> 3.9.4-1
extra/mesa 7.7.1-1 -> 7.8.1-3
extra/xf86-input-evdev 2.3.2-1 -> 2.4.0-1

==> New package :
core/linux-firmware 20100606-1 (required by kernel26)

==> Continue upgrade ? [Y/n]

Maybe xorg-server-1.8-catalyst-maximize-fix should be renamed to xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix?

flamelab · 2010-06-21 10:39:21

^ What program do you use for upgrade ? Clyde ?

Gooler · 2010-06-21 12:03:54

Hi, I'm using yaourt

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 12:54:09

@Gooler: AUR's xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix is now updated

McFlow · 2010-06-21 12:54:13

I received the Update to Xorg 1.8 today but the catalyst driver does not seem to work anymore now. X does not start and i am at the terminal...
This is the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
In the output it says it's not Xorg-server 1.8 but pacman -Q says it is...

Do I need some patched versions of catalyst/xorg?

Last edited by McFlow (2010-06-21 12:55:16)

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 13:09:29

@McFlow: yes, for xserver 1.8 you need a version patch to make it work with catalyst - more at Archlinux ATi Catalyst Wiki page - section repositories.
But you log is strange - are you sure your xorg.conf is builded correctly? I mean at your log theres no fglrx lines - there should be. Although there is

(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)

which you dont really need. Looks like theres a problem with your xorg.conf for me. aticonfig --initial should do job, and ofcourse patched xserver 1.8.

McFlow · 2010-06-21 13:29:24

Ups, obviously I chose an older log.
I added the catalyst repo and installed catalyst from there.
This is the new log. click
This is xorg.conf created by aticonfig --initial

Last edited by McFlow (2010-06-21 13:36:11)

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 13:42:50

@McFlow: No errors, sigfault at the end ... doesnt look good. Did you experience any problems with catalyst 10.6 before xserv 1.8?
Edit: Cuz some people at phoronix forums also got sigfault with 10.6. I dont know was that releated to xserver version.
You may try xorg-server-backclear package from repo but i guess result will be the same...
Edit: also do:
rm /etc/ati/amdpcsdb

Edit: you xorg.conf looks good
Hmm... are you using nforce4 chipset?

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2010-06-21 13:47:28)

Dennis Beekman · 2010-06-21 14:55:05

I have kernel 2.6.34-arch and xserver 1.8 .... and i upgraded the FGLRX. driver aswell.

The artifac that showed in firefox before are still there, there less of them and they are now grey instead of black... but they are still there.

ChemBro · 2010-06-21 14:58:35

What is the recommened setup, if I want to use Kernel 2.6.34 and Xserver 1.8 with Catalyst 10.6? Which xserver (aur-package) do I need?

dcc24 · 2010-06-21 15:00:38

Here are the steps:

- Add Vi0L0's catalyst repo (see wiki).
- pacman -Syy
- pacman -Suu
- pacman -Rd xorg-server
- pacman -S xorg-server-catalyst-maximize-fix
- pacman -Rd libgl
- pacman -S catalyst
- reboot

That's it

Last edited by dcc24 (2010-06-21 15:01:13)

snack · 2010-06-21 15:01:43

@Vi0l0: is there any version of 10.5 compiled for 2.6.34 in the i686 repos? I'd like to upgrade the kernel but catalyst 10.5 on my system requires kernel26<2.6.34.
Thanks

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 15:04:48

If i may correct you dcc24:

- Add Vi0L0's catalyst repo (see wiki).
- pacman -Syy
- pacman -Suu
- pacman -S xorg-server
(now xorg-server in catalyst repo is without backclear/backfill patches, you may use it if you are using ATi 2D acceleration - otherwise please use xorg-server-backclear or xorg-server-1.8-catalyst-maximize-fix)
- pacman -S catalyst
- reboot

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2010-06-21 15:05:20)

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 15:09:01

snack wrote:

@Vi0l0: is there any version of 10.5 compiled for 2.6.34 in the i686 repos? I'd like to upgrade the kernel but catalyst 10.5 on my system requires kernel26<2.6.34.
Thanks

Well actually there is, but not mentioned in wiki:

For i686:
[catalyst-10.5]
http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/catalyst/i686
For x86_64:
[catalyst-10.5]
http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/catalyst/x86_64

I havent wrote about it in wiki cuz 10.6 could work without glitches (if thats problem you are experiencing) with old xaa 2d acceleration.

snack · 2010-06-21 15:10:21

@Vi0l0 Thanks, I will try with 10.6 but since I had problems with it I'd like to be able to revert to 10.5 while retaining the new kernel...

dcc24 · 2010-06-21 15:18:07

Vi0L0 wrote:

If i may correct you dcc24

I do things manually (compile xorg-server myself) so I thought the "pacman -Rd" commands would still apply for your repo. It's nice that the repo approach doesn't require them

Gooler · 2010-06-21 16:28:45

Well, didn't knew there was a 'xorg-server' package in catalyst, thougth all the names had a -catalyst- in between somewhere so I just remove the -catalyst-maximize-fix one and installed this: everything went smooth

Thank you one more time Vi0l0 for your work with the packages and the documentation.
Also thanks to all who contribute to this thread :-)

ChemBro · 2010-06-21 16:57:02

Okay, Vi0L0, your repo worked on my test system. However: I still had this grey/black box problem with every xorg-server available in the catalyst repo (or should I do this aticonfig --yadayada,XXAforce,TRUE,somethingsomething command? I haven't done it).

So I guess, I stay with Catalyst 10.5 and xorg-server 1.7.x.

One question: Is it save to update everything besides xorg-server (for example: dri2proto, xf86-video-vesa, mesa, and so on)?

dcc24 · 2010-06-21 17:03:01

Using that command will revert 2D rendering back to XAA which will fix your problem. Currently, there is no other known fix.

Also, updating those packages is NOT safe if you choose to stay with xorg-server 1.7. It WILL break your system.

Last edited by dcc24 (2010-06-21 17:04:01)

borislavl · 2010-06-21 17:41:37

Hmm strange....
Today I enabled catalyst repo and updated my system with
pacman -Syy
pacman -Syu
The following packets were upgraded:

[2010-06-21 08:30] synchronizing package lists
[2010-06-21 08:30] starting full system upgrade
[2010-06-21 08:31] removed kernel26-firmware (2.6.33.4-1)
[2010-06-21 08:31] installed linux-firmware (20100606-1)
[2010-06-21 08:31] upgraded coreutils (8.5-1 -> 8.5-2)
[2010-06-21 08:31] upgraded udev (151-3 -> 157-1)
[2010-06-21 08:31] upgraded mkinitcpio (0.6.4-1 -> 0.6.6-1)
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ...
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> MKINITCPIO SETUP
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> ----------------
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> If you use LVM2, Encrypted root or software RAID,
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> Ensure you enable support in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf .
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> More information about mkinitcpio setup can be found here:
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mkinitcpio
[2010-06-21 08:31] 
[2010-06-21 08:31] >>> Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio.  Please wait...
[2010-06-21 08:31] ==> Building image "default"
[2010-06-21 08:31] ==> Running command: /sbin/mkinitcpio -k 2.6.34-ARCH -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/kernel26.img
[2010-06-21 08:31] :: Begin build
[2010-06-21 08:31] :: Parsing hook [base]
[2010-06-21 08:31] :: Parsing hook [udev]
[2010-06-21 08:31] :: Parsing hook [autodetect]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [pata]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [scsi]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [sata]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [filesystems]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Generating module dependencies
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Generating image '/boot/kernel26.img'...SUCCESS
[2010-06-21 08:32] ==> SUCCESS
[2010-06-21 08:32] ==> Building image "fallback"
[2010-06-21 08:32] ==> Running command: /sbin/mkinitcpio -k 2.6.34-ARCH -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/kernel26-fallback.img -S autodetect
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Begin build
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [base]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [udev]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [pata]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [scsi]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [sata]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Parsing hook [filesystems]
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Generating module dependencies
[2010-06-21 08:32] :: Generating image '/boot/kernel26-fallback.img'...SUCCESS
[2010-06-21 08:32] ==> SUCCESS
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded kernel26 (2.6.33.4-1 -> 2.6.34-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded kernel26-headers (2.6.33.4-1 -> 2.6.34-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.3.2-1 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xorg-server (1.7.6-3 -> 1.8.1-1)
[2010-06-21 08:32] --------------------------------------------------------------
[2010-06-21 08:32] You can use the tool 'aticonfig' to generate an xorg.conf file.
[2010-06-21 08:32] Remember to add fglrx to the MODULES list in /etc/rc.conf.
[2010-06-21 08:32] --------------------------------------------------------------
[2010-06-21 08:32] Add nomodeset to your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst , ie.:
[2010-06-21 08:32] kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/1aa731c0-f626-4d01-a551-8eed3c2a35f3 ro nomodeset
[2010-06-21 08:32] --------------------------------------------------------------
[2010-06-21 08:32] To get it work with xorg-server >= 1.8 (when it will arrive in [extra] repo)
[2010-06-21 08:32] you need patched xorg-server, you may get it from [catalyst-xorg18] repo, more here:
[2010-06-21 08:32] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI_Catalyst#Testing_repositories
[2010-06-21 08:32] --------------------------------------------------------------
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded catalyst (10.4-2 -> 10.6-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded dri2proto (2.1-2 -> 2.3-1)
[2010-06-21 08:32] warning: /etc/rc.conf installed as /etc/rc.conf.pacnew
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded initscripts (2010.05-3 -> 2010.06-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded libdrm (2.4.19-2 -> 2.4.21-1)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded mesa (7.7.1-1 -> 7.8.1-3)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded sdl (1.2.14-4 -> 1.2.14-5)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-acecad (1.4.0-1 -> 1.4.0-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-aiptek (1.3.0-1 -> 1.3.0-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-elographics (1.2.3-3 -> 1.2.4-1)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-fpit (1.3.0-3 -> 1.3.0-5)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-hyperpen (1.3.0-3 -> 1.3.0-4)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-joystick (1.5.0-1 -> 1.5.0-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-keyboard (1.4.0-1 -> 1.4.0-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-mouse (1.5.0-1 -> 1.5.0-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-mutouch (1.2.1-4 -> 1.2.1-5)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-penmount (1.4.1-1 -> 1.4.1-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-synaptics (1.2.1-1 -> 1.2.2-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-vmmouse (12.6.5-3 -> 12.6.7-1)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-input-void (1.3.0-1 -> 1.3.0-2)
[2010-06-21 08:32] upgraded xf86-video-vesa (2.3.0-1 -> 2.3.0-2)

Now I have [ 9.244] (==) fglrx(0): ATI 2D Acceleration Architecture enabled
which is good
Also

glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes

But glxgears give me around 60 FPS !?!?
I am using Arch 32bit, KDE 4.4.4, Radeon HD4200
Enabling or disabling composite doesn't solve this.
3D games work as expected (extremetuxracer).

pacman -Qi xorg-server

Name           : xorg-server
Version        : 1.8.1-1
URL            : http://xorg.freedesktop.org
Licenses       : custom  
Groups         : xorg  
Provides       : x-server  
Depends On     : libgl  libxfont>=1.4.1  libgcrypt>=1.4.5  udev>=151  libpciaccess>=0.10.9  
                 libxv>=1.0.5  pixman>=0.18.0  xcursor-themes>=1.0.2  xkeyboard-config>=1.8  
                 xorg-server-utils  xorg-fonts-misc  xbitmaps  diffutils  xf86-input-evdev>=2.3.2-2  
                 inputproto>=2.0  
Optional Deps  : None
Required By    : catalyst  
Conflicts With : catalyst-utils<=9.2  xf86-input-calcomp  xf86-input-citron  xf86-input-digitaledge  
                 xf86-input-dmc  xf86-input-dynapro  xf86-input-elo2300  xf86-input-jamstudio  
                 xf86-input-magellan  xf86-input-magictouch  xf86-input-microtouch  
                 xf86-input-palmax  xf86-input-spaceorb  xf86-input-summa  xf86-input-tek4957  
                 xf86-input-ur98  xf86-video-vga  xf86-video-intel-legacy  
                 nvidia-96xx-utils<96.43.14  nvidia-173xx-utils<173.14.21  
Replaces       : None
Installed Size : 10004,00 K
Packager       : Jan de Groot <jgc@archlinux.org>
Architecture   : i686
Build Date     : 26.05.2010 (ср) 22,45,29 EEST
Install Date   : 21.06.2010 (пн) 8,32,50 EEST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Description    : X.Org X servers

So catalyst works with Xorg from extra?

Last edited by borislavl (2010-06-21 17:43:14)

dcc24 · 2010-06-21 17:43:33

Low fps could be caused by Vsync. You should check amdccle.

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 17:53:27

ChemBro wrote:

One question: Is it save to update everything besides xorg-server (for example: dri2proto, xf86-video-vesa, mesa, and so on)?

If you still want to use xserver 1.7 its better to use [xorg17] repo, that way all unneeded xserver 1.8 packages wont be updated - http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI … positories (read it carefully)

Vi0L0 · 2010-06-21 17:55:03

borislavl wrote:

So catalyst works with Xorg from extra?

Nope, xserver 1.8 need to be patched (versioning 'hack') to work (all xorg-server packages in catalyst repo are patched with it)
And LOL you are using xorg-server package from extra... wtf... must to check that :-)

LOOOOOL! 10.6 actually can work with xorg-server package from extra! I havent seen any post about that, also ATi didnt announce xserver 1.8 support. But its working! So removing xorg-server package from catalyst repo :-)

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2010-06-21 18:06:59)

borislavl · 2010-06-21 18:10:03

dcc24 wrote:

Low fps could be caused by Vsync. You should check amdccle.

Maybe you are right. I set 'Wait for Vertical Refresh' to 'Always On'

Vi0L0 wrote:

LOOOOOL! 10.6 actually can work with xorg-server package from extra!

Yes ))

Last edited by borislavl (2010-06-21 18:13:05)

McFlow · 2010-06-21 18:28:12

Vi0L0 wrote:

@McFlow: No errors, sigfault at the end ... doesnt look good. Did you experience any problems with catalyst 10.6 before xserv 1.8?
Edit: Cuz some people at phoronix forums also got sigfault with 10.6. I dont know was that releated to xserver version.
You may try xorg-server-backclear package from repo but i guess result will be the same...
Edit: also do:
rm /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
Edit: you xorg.conf looks good
Hmm... are you using nforce4 chipset?

I did it all but no success.
I added the xorg-17 repo and downgraded to Xserver 1.7. With the catalyst package which displays the catalyst version as 10.6 in clyde I get the segfault... Then I removed the catalyst package and installed catalyst-test which says 10.4 but in the catalyst control center it says it's 10.6.
I don't know what's the matter but now it works.
Thanks for your help anyway.

Last edited by McFlow (2010-06-21 18:28:25)

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