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#1 2010-06-13 14:01:04

nothinggoespast
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System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Since I installed Arch, about 43% of the time that I have attempted to boot my computer the boot process hangs at module loading. I assumed that the problem may have been that I was autoloading my modules. I tried turning autoloading off and manually loading them instead but that did not help. Then (as a shot in the dark) I tried having autoloading on, with my modules still defined in rc.conf, but that only made things worse (understandably, I did not think that this would help, but I figured that it couldn't hurt to try).

Here is my /etc/rc.conf

#
# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
#

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# LOCALIZATION
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "UTC" or "localtime", any other value will result
#   in the hardware clock being left untouched (useful for virtualization)
# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo
# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps
# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)
# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans
# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages
#
LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8"
HARDWARECLOCK="UTC"
TIMEZONE="America/New_York"
KEYMAP="us"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# HARDWARE
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# MOD_AUTOLOAD: Allow autoloading of modules at boot and when needed
# MOD_BLACKLIST: Prevent udev from loading these modules
# MODULES: Modules to load at boot-up. Prefix with a ! to blacklist.
#
# NOTE: Use of 'MOD_BLACKLIST' is deprecated. Please use ! in the MODULES array.
#
MOD_AUTOLOAD="no"
#MOD_BLACKLIST=() #deprecated
MODULES=(ac battery button processor thermal video cdrom intel-agp tpm_bios tpm tpm_tis tpm_tis tpm_tis drm_kms_helper drm i915 hid i2c-algo-bit i2c-i801 i2c-core evdev joydev pcspkr psmouse serio_raw uvcvideo v4l1-compat v4l2-compat-ioctl32 videodev pci_hotplug shpchp wmi rtc-cmos rtc-core rtc-lib output iTCO_vendor_support iTCO_wdt snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-hwdep snd snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd-hda-codec snd-hda-intel soundcore scsi_mod ahci atl1e mac80211 rfkill iwlagn iwlcore cfg80211 usb-storage usbhid usbcore ehci-hcd uhci-hcd sd_mod sr_mod st) 
# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# HOSTNAME: Hostname of machine. Should also be put in /etc/hosts
#
HOSTNAME="foster.laptop"

# Use 'ifconfig -a' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' to see all available interfaces.
#
# Interfaces to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each interface then list in INTERFACES
#   - prefix an entry in INTERFACES with a ! to disable it
#   - no hyphens in your interface names - Bash doesn't like it
# 
# DHCP:     Set your interface to "dhcp" (wlan0="dhcp")
# Wireless: See network profiles below
#

#Static IP example
#eth0="eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255"
#wlan0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(!wlan0)

# Routes to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each route then list in ROUTES
#   - prefix an entry in ROUTES with a ! to disable it
#
gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
 
# Enable these network profiles at boot-up.  These are only useful
# if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
#   - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
#   - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network.d
#
# This now requires the netcfg package
#
#NETWORKS=(main)

# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
DAEMONS=(@alsa @syslog-ng @network dbus hal networkmanager @cups @netfs @crond @laptopmode)

Last edited by nothinggoespast (2010-06-28 00:47:01)

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#2 2010-06-13 14:04:13

nothinggoespast
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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

not so sure if this should have gone in the newbie corner, but since I am new to archlinux, I figured why not.

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#3 2010-06-13 15:03:50

ceuric
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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Whats this,  "tpm_tis tpm_tis tpm_tis"  in MODULES= does it need to be repeated 3 times?

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#4 2010-06-13 19:34:23

nothinggoespast
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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

ceuric wrote:

Whats this,  "tpm_tis tpm_tis tpm_tis"  in MODULES= does it need to be repeated 3 times?

I thought the same thing was strange when I first put it in, but that's what hwdetect spit out so I assumed that it was supposed to be like that. I guess I forgot about that, let me try to delete any duplicates.

Last edited by nothinggoespast (2010-06-13 19:42:03)

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#5 2010-06-13 19:41:48

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

nothinggoespast wrote:
ceuric wrote:

Whats this,  "tpm_tis tpm_tis tpm_tis"  in MODULES= does it need to be repeated 3 times?

I thought the same thing was strange when I first put it in, but that's what hwdetect spit out so I assumed that it was supposed to be like that. I guess I forgot about that, let me try to delete any duplicates.

just rebooted 4 times with no problems... wow I feel stupid for not catching that one...

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#6 2010-06-13 22:20:41

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

scratch that... it's still not working every time, just more often.

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#7 2010-06-13 22:44:29

Coacher
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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Show output of dmesg. It is better to upload somewhere like pastebin.

#8 2010-06-13 23:34:45

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Coacher wrote:

Show output of dmesg. It is better to upload somewhere like pastebin.

output of dmesg is at this link http://pastebin.com/wSyQL43m

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#9 2010-06-13 23:52:12

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

nothinggoespast wrote:
Coacher wrote:

Show output of dmesg. It is better to upload somewhere like pastebin.

output of dmesg is at this link http://pastebin.com/wSyQL43m

obviously this is the output of dmesg when the boot process does not hang, as I cannot get to a terminal to type the dmesg command if the computer does not boot.

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#10 2010-06-14 00:28:04

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Yes, I noticed)) Paste /var/log/everything please after failed boot

#11 2010-06-14 01:07:30

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

These seem to be the problem... these warnings come up in the log for every failed boot, but are absent from the normal ones. They are the only differences between successful and failed boots. Any ideas?

Jun 13 20:57:28 foster NetworkManager: <WARN>  nm_dhcp_manager_handle_event(): Received DHCP event from unexpected PID 26942 (expected 0)
Jun 13 20:57:30 foster NetworkManager: <WARN>  nm_signal_handler(): Caught signal 15, shutting down normally.

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#12 2010-06-14 01:09:19

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Coacher wrote:

Yes, I noticed)) Paste /var/log/everything please after failed boot

being over 20,000 lines long, I figured it unwise to post the entirety of /var/log/everything.log

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#13 2010-06-14 02:23:42

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

Only after failed boot. Check the timestamps.

#14 2010-06-15 02:19:25

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

http://pastebin.com/1k1uUUev
here the /var/log/everything.log only from one failed boot

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#15 2010-06-15 03:43:13

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

I have the same problem on my thinkpad T500 after I upgrade the wireless card (intel wifi link 5300).
For a long time I didn't understand the why of this behavior, but some weeks ago I realise that the problem can solve it hard-locking the wireless card and unlocking after the step: "loading modules".
For more information this is the complete thread on thinkpad forum that I wrote when I try to solve this issue: http://lnv.lithium.com/t5/T400-T500-and … 870#M26238

I apologize if you do not understand what I mean, the problem is that I have some difficulties to express myself in English

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#16 2010-06-27 13:59:53

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

bump

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#17 2010-06-28 00:43:34

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Re: System boot occasionally hangs at module loading

bump please?

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