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Hiram

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From: Brisbane, Australia

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Problem with nvidia-173xx

Hey guys,

Just did a good old pacman -Syu, and I've run into this problem. I wasn't able to find another thread on here with this problem and I'm sure I'm not the only one using older drivers from nvidia, so I thought it might be useful to make this thread.

:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace kernel26-firmware with core/linux-firmware? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: nvidia-173xx: requires kernel26<2.6.34

To be quite honest, I have no idea what to do. Even searching for nvidia now only turns up the 195 branch, so I'm not sure what's going on. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

skottish

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Registered: 2006-06-16

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Hey guys,

Just did a good old pacman -Syu, and I've run into this problem. I wasn't able to find another thread on here with this problem and I'm sure I'm not the only one using older drivers from nvidia, so I thought it might be useful to make this thread.

:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace kernel26-firmware with core/linux-firmware? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: nvidia-173xx: requires kernel26<2.6.34

To be quite honest, I have no idea what to do. Even searching for nvidia now only turns up the 195 branch, so I'm not sure what's going on. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

The older nVidia drivers have not been ported upstream to the new X.

--EDIT--

It actually has been ported, but it's not a stable release yet. Maybe one of the beta packages works?

Hiram

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From: Brisbane, Australia

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Oh fudgey. Oh well, thanks for that!

skottish

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

There are hacks that may or not work for you. This is worth checking out (before the discussion gets stupid).

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=150574

brain0

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From: Aachen - Germany

Registered: 2005-01-03

Posts: 1,382

Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

It actually has been ported, but it's not a stable release yet. Maybe one of the beta packages works?

There is no newer package than the one that has "Added xorg-server 1.7 support" in the changelog.

dobbs

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From: Pacific NW - USA

Registered: 2010-05-24

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

I'm sure I'm not the only one using older drivers from nvidia

You're not, I'm getting the exact same error message. I just decided to not update for awhile , and see what happens?

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Hiram

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From: Brisbane, Australia

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Yeah that's what I'm going with. I'm hoping it's not too long before the update comes through.

I really don't think it's worth the effort of installing nv, configuring it and such just to have the update make all my work for nothing. Besides, I never restart my computer or turn it off, and that would be a bother

vdust

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Registered: 2008-10-27

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Besides, I never restart my computer or turn it off, and that would be a bother

This makes package upgrades a bit useless then, since new versions of the kernel, libraries and daemons are effective once you restart your system (the old ones remain in memory until then). That's how supposely up-to-date systems get vulnerable sometimes because security-related upgrades are applied on disk but not in memory.

That said, i hope old nvidia drivers will get upgraded soon. Until then, I can live with  pacman -Suy --ignore kernel26. At least, their is a conflict error this time (i remember how i got stuck with a not-working system for some days when archlinux upgraded to xorg 1.7 ...).

Xenokite

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From: Linden, NJ USA

Registered: 2009-03-14

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Well i got to wait.... like a big butthead i thought i could uninstall it then reinstall the package that goes with the new packages. Yeah that didn't work, so i'll wait. :P  Add this one in the learning bank.:/

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orasis

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Registered: 2008-03-22

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

I'm getting the same thing over here, I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I've had major issues with xorg updates before so I think that I'll sit this one out and wait until a proper release is ... well, released.

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JohnVV

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Arch is not the only one, Fedora also has legacy nvidia driver issues.

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porcupene

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

I have the same issue.

~Fir3fly

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Registered: 2010-06-16

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

hey guys. im getting the same issue of course.
i tried ignoring kernel26, but in the targets theres Xorg, and im worried that if i upgrade that it'll try and use the new kernel or something and screw up.
should i just sit out until nv-drivers are upgraded or something?

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Xenokite

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

hey guys. im getting the same issue of course.
i tried ignoring kernel26, but in the targets theres Xorg, and im worried that if i upgrade that it'll try and use the new kernel or something and screw up.
should i just sit out until nv-drivers are upgraded or something?

yeah i would, just want for the updated legacy packages.

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archP4

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From: Kent, England

Registered: 2010-05-24

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Another one here. Just got the message now. A bit fustrating as my KMail won't work and now this. If I download my driver from the NVIDIA site (as I do in SuSE) and install will that fix it? thanks

tomk

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

FYI all - this issue has nothing to do with the linux-firmware package. Thread title has been edited accordingly.

1LordAnubis

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Well, if you do happen to update, you can always go to http://schlunix.org/archlinux/extra/os/i686/
and downgrade, these worked for me:

[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.3.2-1 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-keyboard (1.4.0-1 -> 1.4.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-mouse (1.5.0-1 -> 1.5.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-synaptics (1.2.1-1 -> 1.2.2-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-video-vesa (2.3.0-1 -> 2.3.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xorg-server (1.7.6-3 -> 1.8.1.902-1)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xterm (258-2 -> 259-1)

And install nvidia-173xx-all from aur

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kilgoretrout

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Registered: 2010-06-28

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Same problem here; patienly waiting for nvidia to update the 173xx driver. In the mean time, I've blacklisted the kernel and xorg packages from updating by editing the IgnorePkg line in /etc/pacman.conf like so:

IgnorePkg   = kernel26 kernel26-headers xorg-server kernel26-firmware xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa mkinitcpio xf86-input-synaptics

This has worked fine for now and all my other packages are updating without issue. I had to blacklist everything above to get the updates to go as there are a lot of circular interdependencies, ymmv.

Xenokite

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From: Linden, NJ USA

Registered: 2009-03-14

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Well, if you do happen to update, you can always go to http://schlunix.org/archlinux/extra/os/i686/
and downgrade, these worked for me:

[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.3.2-1 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-keyboard (1.4.0-1 -> 1.4.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-mouse (1.5.0-1 -> 1.5.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-synaptics (1.2.1-1 -> 1.2.2-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-video-vesa (2.3.0-1 -> 2.3.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xorg-server (1.7.6-3 -> 1.8.1.902-1)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xterm (258-2 -> 259-1)

And install nvidia-173xx-all from aur

I think i might have to do this i can't wait anymore using vista hurts me...

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1LordAnubis

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Well, if you do happen to update, you can always go to http://schlunix.org/archlinux/extra/os/i686/
and downgrade, these worked for me:

[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.3.2-1 -> 2.4.0-1)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-keyboard (1.4.0-1 -> 1.4.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-mouse (1.5.0-1 -> 1.5.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-input-synaptics (1.2.1-1 -> 1.2.2-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xf86-video-vesa (2.3.0-1 -> 2.3.0-2)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xorg-server (1.7.6-3 -> 1.8.1.902-1)
[2010-06-27 00:42] upgraded xterm (258-2 -> 259-1)

And install nvidia-173xx-all from aur

I think i might have to do this i can't wait anymore using vista hurts me...

Also, I had to blacklist nouveau on the modules array; I found this out after I rebooted.

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banan

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Registered: 2010-03-01

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

Another day and "Syu" still failing.. Just have to wait then

JohnVV

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From: Ann Arbor, Mi. U.S.A.

Registered: 2009-09-30

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

banan adding a block worked for me
everything BUT the ones listed below updated
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/etc/pacman.conf

IgnorePkg   = kernel26 kernel26-headers xorg-server kernel26-firmware xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa mkinitcpio xf86-input-synaptics
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and i am using the older 96 nvidia driver

Last edited by JohnVV (2010-06-30 21:03:00)

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banan

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Registered: 2010-03-01

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

banan adding a block worked for me
everything BUT the ones listed below updated
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/etc/pacman.conf

IgnorePkg   = kernel26 kernel26-headers xorg-server kernel26-firmware xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-video-vesa mkinitcpio xf86-input-synaptics
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and i am using the older 96 nvidia driver

Didn't work the other day I tried it, but if I READ instead of just pressing "enter"... voila

Thanks for making me try again!

shetland_breeder

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Registered: 2010-05-17

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Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

The NVIDIA drivers will work with xorg 1.8. It's just kernel 2.6.34 they don't work with. You just need to add the -ignoreABI option when you start X (startx -- -ignoreABI).

So you can upgrade by ignoring kernel26 for now.

Why not free up a few gig on your hard drive and make an installation of Arch just for testing things on? Then you won't mess up your working copy (too badly .

Pete

yabasta

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Registered: 2010-05-01

Posts: 167

Re: Problem with nvidia-173xx

hmm, apparently the new drivers with Xorg support are out. Yet still when i try to do an upgrade i get this error -

:: Synchronising package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: nvidia-173xx: requires kernel26<2.6.34

am i doing something wrong?