New Opera, user opinions.

firewalker · 2010-07-01 22:42:26

What do you think about the new Opera 10.60?

I believe that they made more changes than they should in a such short period of time.

Ranguvar · 2010-07-02 01:23:50

firewalker wrote:

What do you think about the new Opera 10.60?
I believe that they made more changes than they should in a such short period of time.

That doesn't make any sense to me
Either you do or you don't like the changes.

If you do like the changes, that's a _good_ thing, it's quick progress
If you don't, well, then you don't, that's all there is to it..

anonymous_user · 2010-07-02 01:29:40

Ranguvar wrote:

That doesn't make any sense to me

Maybe he means some of the changes don't feel polished or thoroughly tested. Or maybe like they rushed the release.

TigTex · 2010-07-02 01:44:52

I think the new opera has a pretty fast javascript engine and works faster then any browser that I have. In my opinion, opera is currently the best browser.

Sertse · 2010-07-02 01:53:24

I think maybe that the difference on linux and other platforms is getting further and further, 10 vs 10.6 now that they feel pressured into releasing something to get into line again. They have been significant changes on linux, esp rewriting the browser in it's own toolkit vs QT, so I'm not surprised there are quirks.

However it workswell enough and I'm happy with it

rb · 2010-07-02 07:37:42

JavaScript works much faster than in 10.20, however for some odd reason my navigation is slow as hell. For instance it took me more than 35' to get into gmail. I installed Firefox to test, and it's the same (sloooow). It's weird, because with 10.20 I had not issues at all, and in my laptop (currently with Opera 10.20) everything works like a charm.

Anyone else suffers something like this with the update?

ancient_archer · 2010-07-03 08:20:51

Hello.

I think that new Opera is pretty cool since I think it's a bit faster and also it is finally very well integrated with both KDE and Gnome so not as ugly as before when using Gnome.

But do you guys have the same problems with fonts like me? In 10.10 version everything seemed to be fine - size of the fonts was quite uniform through all the web pages.

Now even when I set all the relevant fonts to 12 in Settings, I still can see that in some web pages (like G-mail the fonts are a bit smaller in comparison to what they used to be, in some others like Facebook or Arch Linux forum they are much bigger as they used to be). I want them to be as they used to be in 10.10 (uniform size)

Do you have any explanations for that and any ideas how to fix it? I searched google for that but did not come to any relevant information.

Thank you

maxexcloo · 2010-07-03 09:28:44

I like the Opera but I have some issues using GTK themes and xcompmgr.

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spidernik84 · 2010-07-03 10:14:18

maxexcloo wrote:

I like the Opera but I have some issues using GTK themes and xcompmgr.

I can confirm: i noticed some strange artifacts while interacting with opera gui, but most notably when resizing the window. Nothing blocking, but strange, still.

Apart from this: it's a pretty good browser, speed and feature-wise, and now that it's waaay better integrated into the gui, it's definitely worth a try!
I still find chrome noticeably faster, both in startup and in page rendering.

na12 · 2010-07-03 17:27:56

I have some issues with scrolling,and I am not so thrilled with new opera.

anonymous_user · 2010-07-03 17:34:37

I just tried the new Opera it still doesn't integrate well enough for my tastes. Actually I think the previous qt4 versions may have looked better, not sure.

pogeymanz · 2010-07-06 15:24:46

One thing I've noticed is that the GUI seems to be even less snappy than Firefox's. I've tried disabling as much eye-candy as possible, like thumbnail tabs, etc.

It also doesn't seem as fast for me as it used to...

mythus · 2010-07-06 16:24:26

Hmm.. I suppose I must be the odd ball eh?

I have been using Opera as a browser for both KDE and E17, for a year or so now, and have recently upgraded to the latest version.

It, to me, feels like it loads websites faster for the most part than the earlier version. It still integrates well with qt for me in KDE and now even with gtk for my gtk-based environments, so it is going pretty darn well. The one thing that never integrated well was it's menu bar, which I have set so that it appears as a simple menu button now, and it all works and looks like a native browser.

In my other environments though I tend to use firefox more and it's latests versions feel faster. But in kde where I want everything integrating with qt, I use opera. Konqueror still needs some more love to be my browser of choice again, and I tried to love rekonq, but I got mixed results on different website, including my own... Opera though, it just works, plain and simple, and matches everything else in my kde environment.

sugardeath · 2010-07-06 21:26:37

64bit 10.60 on my desktop has killed some of my userscripts, but otherwise is quite an enjoyable experience. For some reason it seems to be using qt4 to render instead of gtk2. 32bit 10.60 on my netbook works with my userscripts just fine and renders in GTK, though the file chooser isn't GTK's or QT's, but Opera's instead (thus, I only get a line to enter the directory to save, not the normal file browser view).

Overall I'm happy. It does look really good using qt4, and has actually made me think about checking out KDE4(mod?).

enyaw_ecurb · 2010-07-07 16:36:48

I don't think they made too many changes. In fact what do you mean with "too many changes"? They changed the Interface, ok. Looks nice, leaves more monitor space for surfing. Maybe I'm not so much of a poweruser, but I did not notice a change of features.

If you however mean that they changed too much "under the hood", then you are maybe right. I was quite disappointed when they pushed the unix-version farther and farther back, 10.5, 10.6 to finally deliver something like a raw gem. Glittering but not without edges. I use and used opera-devel and never had great stability problems _but_ it does not feel finished, not yet polished. The architectural changes however were neccessary, so I'm not gonna complain.

Whatever, I like the new opera.

skanky · 2010-07-08 10:46:43

I didn't use it before - first download was 10.60beta but I like it enough. I was just using it as I was having a problem starting FFx and have not actually gone back to FFx yet.

One issue I am having though is that I get a silent fail logging into gmail (or other google sites). It sometimes works, but more often than not I just get the signin screen with no error. It's no big deal as I'll probably just stop using google's services (hardly use them already), but it'd be interesting to know if it's an Opera or google issue, as if the former, it might bite me in the future - this is a work system and I sometimes get no choice as to some websites I need to use.

mythus · 2010-07-08 11:30:47

Skanky, I have no trouble logging into gmail, and check it daily in the new opera, so I can report that your issue isn't experienced by everyone. I am curious why you have the silent fail...

skanky · 2010-07-08 12:09:25

Yeah, same here. I might be a cookie issue as I have also received the "cookies not enabled" message, when they are. The whole thing is inconsistent. I've cleared all google cokies and it's not helped (unless I missed one). I've changed the password and was signed in successfully afterwards, but all signin attempts fail (other google sites still requested signin at the time).

The google help just says they don't support Opera. I've put resolution attempts on hold for now. Also, no that I know it's probably not an Opera issue, I'll leave it there.

Edit: forgot to say, thanks for letting me know that.

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Pierre · 2010-07-08 12:50:05

Imho Opera has still some major issues (besides being proprietary). The UI rendering on KDE is broken and https does not work properly. (E.g. try to install the cacert certs and surf to https://www.archlinux.de)

DonVla · 2010-07-08 13:20:34

Pierre wrote:

Imho Opera has still some major issues (besides being proprietary). The UI rendering on KDE is broken and https does not work properly. (E.g. try to install the cacert certs and surf to https://www.archlinux.de)

Strange, it works here.
It asks if you trust this site (unknown cert) and to save the certificate and then it never asks again.

BTW: Opera has a flash "problem" with Openbox. You cannot click in embedded flash windows.
Mikael Magnusson, Openbox developer wrote:

Does it work if you hold shift while clicking? If it does, it's a
flash bug where it
doesn't accept the events it gets from openbox when it passes through
clicks. You can
work around it by removing any bindings you have in the "Client"
context for the mouse.

Pierre · 2010-07-08 13:43:46

You just added an exception for a site. I meant to install the two root certs from cacert.org and then visiting a site that uses those certs.

karabaja4 · 2010-07-08 13:53:18

I don't mind new Opera, except I can't find the preferences menu that was there in 10.10.

For me Opera is better browser than any other out there, mainly because it actually has decent scrolling speed on complex web sites compared to other web browsers like Firefox or Chromium, and feels much snappier. I might say speed is the only thing that matters to me in a browser, so I can overlook the minuses like Opera being closed source, unpolished UI and similar deficiencies.

davobrosia · 2010-07-08 22:35:26

After years on Firefox, I switched to Opera after the first 10.50 releases started coming out on the Desktop Team blog. It was so wonderfully fast. However, I recently noticed it gobbling down ungodly amounts of RAM--in amounts greater than 1.5GB--and thrashing through swap. I think it was a cache problem, as it was exacerbated by heavy--ahem--"image viewing." I tried every relevant setting, in every conceivable permutation, for weeks, but I eventually got tired of having to restart the browser and empty my swap, so I switched to the firefox-hg-oss package in AUR, and I'm starting to fall back in love with Firefox.

Barrucadu · 2010-07-13 09:42:25

I like the new Opera, except for one thing. Fonts look horrible. I have no antialiasing, neither in rendered pages nor the Opera interface itself.

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sand_man · 2010-07-13 11:38:14

I've never really used Opera until recently. Using it on my Windows computer at work. Can't say much about it really except that it's better than Internet Explorer...

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