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RaisedFist

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I'm using libetc for two weeks already, but haven't managed to make bash read my .bashrc. Can someone help?

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skanky

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Registered: 2009-10-23

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I'm using libetc for two weeks already, but haven't managed to make bash read my .bashrc. Can someone help?

I ignore .bashrc (and .bash_profile, .xinitrc and .inputrc). I have a ~/.config/bash/bashrc file that's linked to from my home directory.
I set the whole shebang up in .bash_profile as well.

TBH I can't remember why I did that, but it works okay.

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ruscook

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

How can one change $HOME to this paradigm of /home/USER/.home without roaching things?

If you're not setting the user up from scratch, you can simply edit /etc/passwd where you'll find a line like:

shapeshifter:x:1000:100:,,,:/home/shapeshifter/.home:/bin/zsh

Change the path in the middle to your desired directory, and then move all your configs to it right after, or you'll make a mess of things. Or you can play safe and instead of editing a file you can do

usermod -d your-new-desired-home-path

and again move the configs.

Ohh thanks that work's I got clean home directory
I got one question about bash.
Bash use config's from /home/user or /home/user/.home can I delate them form my /home/user?

I've just tried this and while helpful for home/user clutter. The one problem appears  to be Gnome's Desktop and Downloads directories now get created in /home/user/,home/
as /home/user/,home/Desktop and /home/user/,home/Download

As these are data directories I'd prefer they remain at the /home/user level.

Is there a fix for this?
thanks Russ

litemotiv

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I've just tried this and while helpful for home/user clutter. The one problem appears  to be Gnome's Desktop and Downloads directories now get created in /home/user/,home/
as /home/user/,home/Desktop and /home/user/,home/Download

As these are data directories I'd prefer they remain at the /home/user level.

Is there a fix for this?

dirty fix;

/home/user/.home # ln -s ../Desktop
/home/user/.home # ln -s ../Downloads

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skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

ruscook have you tried adding Desktop and Downloads to LIBETC_IGNORE? I don't have them so haven't tried myself.

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Sloonz

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I can reproduce the dlsym problem. I'll look at it this week-end.

skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Thanks.

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FxF

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

my $HOME is in /home/shapeshifter/.home

That means that all the apps will put their dotfiles in the .home folder, instead of trashing my "real" home folder. I have all the folders I like in /home/shapeshifter, like docs and images and whatever, but the configs and dots go all in .home. Brilliant I think!

Your method -- or alternatively libetc that scj also suggested -- seems well-suited to dealing with the problem of configuration file 'collisions' that can occur when a system is set up to boot two or more Linux distros but with only a single /home/<username> directory.

I believe that the usual practice for such for such dual-/tri/quad-boot systems is to make a unique /home/<username> directory for each Linux distro to prevent config file problems, but I'm thinking that I could alternatively create .arch, .gentoo, .lubuntu, etc. subdirectories for config files under /home/FxF and point $HOME for each of the distros to the appropriate folder.

Has anyone actually done this, and if so, are you happy with the results?

gtklocker

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Registered: 2009-09-01

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Okay, just found the origin of the chromium issue :
$ mkdir test
$ cd test
$ rmdir ~/test
$ ls
[crash of ls, shell and terminal]
And yes, chromium-sandbox delete its current working directory — don't ask why.

I'll also look at greasemonkey issue. I never managed to get greasemonkey working, but never linked it to libetc (I thought I was probably missing something).

For the games, I don't have 3D drivers, so I can't help you, sorry. Beside, debugging non-open-source program is way too hard. But perhaps fixing the greasemonkey & chromium issues will fix these games.
Are they native apps or wine apps ?

I really can't understand how you fixed the chromium issue.

Sloonz

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Registered: 2010-03-02

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I really can't understand how you fixed the chromium issue.

Easy :
http://github.com/sloonz/libetc/commit/ … 84b#diff-1

gtklocker

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I installed libetc-experimental-git (which sources is your git repo) and it works! Thanks man!

gtklocker

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Oh, now I have another, more serious problem!

Whatever command I give I take:

as: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libetc.so.0: undefined symbol: dlsym

What I have on my .zshrc is

export LD_PRELOAD=libetc.so.0

Help help!!

skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

See previous page(s). I resolved that by building libetc manually from source. Others solved it by rolling back a version.

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gtklocker

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I installed libetc-experimental-git so chromium can run good... it seems I'll install libetc, with only the patch for chromium.

EDIT! I can't patch the file, things have changed very much! Ooh, do something please!

Last edited by gtklocker (2010-07-19 16:22:55)

skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I installed libetc-experimental-git so chromium can run good... it seems I'll install libetc, with only the patch for chromium.

EDIT! I can't patch the file, things have changed very much! Ooh, do something please!

Sorry that was my laziness. I meant I built libetc-experimental-git manually, not libetc.

In my mind libetc-experimental-git *is* now libetc.

Last edited by skanky (2010-07-19 17:03:41)

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gtklocker

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I take that error with libetc-experimental-git:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 72#p794672

Sloonz

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Registered: 2010-03-02

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

grmbl, I have reproduced the bug one week ago, and now I can't reproduce it anymore…
I hate Heisenbugs.
I just tried to push a fix. Those who can reliably reproduce the problem, please try

gtklocker

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

I just install libetc-experimental-git right after having installed and enabled libetc. and... it happens

Sloonz

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Does your makefile contains (line 12)
gcc rewrite.o libetc.o ${LDFLAGS} -o libetc.so.${VERSION}
or
gcc ${LDFLAGS} rewrite.o libetc.o -o libetc.so.${VERSION}
?

skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

grmbl, I have reproduced the bug one week ago, and now I can't reproduce it anymore…
I hate Heisenbugs.
I just tried to push a fix. Those who can reliably reproduce the problem, please try

Just done makepkg -i and it so far it's looking good. Many thanks.

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skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Could libetc be the cause of some of my FFx add-ons (inc. Greasemonkey) causing it to fail to start? What would I need to do get output that might be useful? strace? I suppose I can just clear LD_PRELOAD, link to the mozilla dir and run it. Anything else?

I'm back on the relevant machine tomorrow so can try a few things then if I get a few minutes.

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Sloonz

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Greasemonkey had a problem some week (months?) ago, but it should be fixed now.

> I suppose I can just clear LD_PRELOAD, link to the mozilla dir and run it.
Yes, and if that fixes the problem, that's libetc fault. If you can reproduce a problem, just let me know

> strace?
For big applications like firefox, finding the problem with strace is like finding a needle in a haystack, unless you can isolate the exact moment when things mess up.

skanky

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

Greasemonkey had a problem some week (months?) ago, but it should be fixed now.

> I suppose I can just clear LD_PRELOAD, link to the mozilla dir and run it.
Yes, and if that fixes the problem, that's libetc fault. If you can reproduce a problem, just let me know

> strace?
For big applications like firefox, finding the problem with strace is like finding a needle in a haystack, unless you can isolate the exact moment when things mess up.

Just tried it, thanks. Made no difference. So it's *not* libetc.

The FFx bug that seems to be causing the issue refers to symlinks - I did wonder if there was some similar underlying system result that was giving the same effect. Anyway, ruled that one out.

I'll track the bug and wait.

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Sloonz

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

LD_PRELOAD=libetc.so VBoxSDL --startvm xp
Frack, another libetc-induced segfault...

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libetc.so VBoxSDL --startvm xp
WTF ?! works fine

LD_PRELOAD=libetc.so screen
Sure, works fine

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libetc.so screen
Totally ignore libetc.so now ! Doesn't make any sense !

LD_PRELOAD=libetc.so firefox/claws-mail/ls/xterm/whatever
works fine

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/bin/libetc.so firefox/claws-mail/ls/xterm/whatever
works fine, too

Okay, I give up. The LD_PRELOAD method has too many problem. I abandon libetc, and I'm starting a FUSE filesystem which will do the job without this kind of weird bug. Someone think it's worth making a "last" version of libetc (tagging current commit as 0.5 in git ?)

Sloonz

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Re: Put your $HOME in .home!

First working version : http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39893
Works just fine so far, including VirtualBox and screen. The pam_mount configuration is a bit more difficult comparing to just definig LD_PRELOAD in .xsession though…