Ratpoison: C-t q keybind does not work

iamblum · 2010-07-14 03:41:32

After reading through the ratpoison man page, I am told that 'C-t q' should quit ratpoison, a binding of 'C-t :quit'. However this doesn't happen. I come back with a "readkey: unbound key 'q'" message.

Now I know I can set the binding myself in my .ratpoisonrc file, but I'm trying to find the general/global file that binds all defaults to see if i is missing or whatnot.

Is anyone else having this issue?

I really want to manually bind this command only as a last resort.

Thanks,

-blum

iamblum · 2010-07-14 06:38:21

Well I went ahead and just did the following:

C-t :
bind q quit

All went well, but that brings up a question. This binding obviously doesn't show up in my ~/.ratpoisonrc file...so which file is this binding saved in?

I've been literally searching for the answer for hours now, but can't seem to find it. The ratpoision manual doesn't tell. The reason I'd like to know is so that I can see which bindings are already in use as I'm sure I'll forget once I start adding my own.

[EDIT] I am aware of the C-t ? command that lists the bindings....I'd just like to know which file they are stored in.

Thanks,
-blum

Last edited by iamblum (2010-07-14 06:42:16)

Hrod beraht · 2010-07-14 17:01:06

iamblum wrote:

After reading through the ratpoison man page, I am told that 'C-t q' should quit ratpoison, a binding of 'C-t :quit'. However this doesn't happen. I come back with a "readkey: unbound key 'q'" message.

C-t q doesn't work for me either and doesn't appear to be a default keybinding anymore (not listed in C-t ?). It hasn't been a keybinding since at least version 1.4.3 that I'm personally aware of. C-t :quit works and is what I've always used. Unfortunately, there's no mention of it in any of the changelogs other than the addition of the 'quit' command way back in like version 0.1.1 years ago. I wonder if it was removed as a default keybinding sometime in the past and just not noted in the man page?

iamblum wrote:

Well I went ahead and just did the following:
C-t :
bind q quit
All went well, but that brings up a question. This binding obviously doesn't show up in my ~/.ratpoisonrc file...so which file is this binding saved in?

When you execute a binding like that it isn't permanently saved anywhere and will disappear as soon as you exit ratpoison. To make it persistent, you need to actually add it to your rc file.
You've got me curious now too. I just checked in /usr/share/ratpoison and the keybindings don't seem to be obviously defined in any file there. Off to check the source code...

Bob

Last edited by Hrod beraht (2010-07-14 17:03:13)

rson451 · 2010-07-14 17:13:09

AFAIK the default bindings are indeed in the source. For any binding you do not want, you must unbind it in your config.

milomouse · 2010-07-14 18:50:32

If you want it globally you could just recompile. I generally install from ratpoison-git and quickly threw something together to test this out.. open the PKGBUILD and add this "sed" line into it:

....

 ## Build
  rm -rf ${startdir}/src/${_gitname}-build
  cp -r ${startdir}/src/${_gitname} ${startdir}/src/${_gitname}-build  || return 1
  cd ${startdir}/src/${_gitname}-build

  sed -i -re 's|add_keybinding \(XK_g,.*$|&\n  add_keybinding (XK_q, 0, \"quit\", map);|' src/actions.c || return 1

  ./autogen.sh  || return 1
  ./configure --prefix=/usr || return 1
  make  || return 1

...

That will add the "C-t q" quit binding globally without having to put it into your rc file. Just an idea, anyway.

iamblum · 2010-07-15 00:19:56

@Hrod beraht;
I noticed this morning after turning on my computer that the keybinding had been reset. That makes me wonder why this "temporary binding" feature is there in the first place. I guess it's useful for those that never shutdown their computers/servers (as for me, being a mild mannered home user, this ':bind' feature has been rendered useless).

Also, I was up all last night looking through the /usr/share/ratpoison directory (even pratically grepped my entire file tree for some kind of 'bind n') and came to the same conclusion as yourself. You'd think that for ratpoison being as simplistic as it is, a global config file would be in the better interest of it's users. (Maybe a feature suggestion is in order?)

@milomouse:
Thanks for going through the trouble of checking into it. I will go ahead and reinstall the -git version today so as to utilize your additions. Even though it's not that much more of an effort to 'C-t :quit', I'd like to learn about PKGBUILD manipulation/creation.

hatten · 2010-07-15 05:06:34

The :bind is pretty useful for testing binds, which I have done a lot.
I've unbound all default keys and specified my own, as can be seen in the ratpoison thread.

Hrod beraht · 2010-07-15 18:25:46

iamblum wrote:

...Even though it's not that much more of an effort to 'C-t :quit'...

I've currently got 4 applications and 6 terminals running. I just went to hit C-t w to get the window list and accidentally fat-fingered the w and q at the same time. Thank goodness the C-t q isn't keybound to quit!
I'm beginning to think that maybe the longer C-t :quit is actually a safety issue

Bob

P.S. off-topic, but since you're a fan of Shawn Betts' keyboard-oriented window manager Ratpoison, have you ever tried his Conkeror web browser? All keyboard operable (emacs) based on Mozilla Xulrunner. If you're a keyboard fan, Ratpoison and Conkeror are a magnificent combination!

valium97582 · 2010-07-16 19:24:00

Ratpoison is still alive? I always thought that Ratpoison had been discontinued in favor of StumpWM...

I think I may be wrong, but both projects are alive concurrently (I bet I wrote that wrong)?

Anyway, I will stay with my StumpWM (meloveslisp), until I find howto kick-off that ugly i3 workspace bar.
Edit: I know how to do that.

Last edited by valium97582 (2010-07-17 01:50:09)

patroclo7 · 2010-07-17 11:20:04

Ratpoison is alive and widely used, last git commit is only two months old. Lisphaters (and humanreadableconfigfileslovers) are not going to switch.

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