Clyde - A better libalpm/makepkg wrapper

quarkup · 2010-07-08 16:20:10

ngoonee wrote:

Hmmm, IgnorePkg doesn't work with AUR packages?

have you edited the file

/etc/clyde.conf

?

lagagnon · 2010-07-10 23:09:21

Since last update clyde now throws me this error:

lua: error loading module 'lualpm' from file '/usr/lib/lua/5.1/lualpm.so':
        libalpm.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Should I kludge it by creating a link to the libalpm.so.5 library or what?

Themaister · 2010-07-11 00:03:54

There is a reason why you have so-bumps. Never link across library versions. You probably have to rebuild clyde or something.

Last edited by Themaister (2010-07-11 00:04:21)

lagagnon · 2010-07-11 16:34:24

Themaister wrote:

There is a reason why you have so-bumps. Never link across library versions. You probably have to rebuild clyde or something.

You are correct and the solution of just re-building was easy. Thanks.

ngoonee · 2010-07-11 17:57:43

quarkup wrote:

ngoonee wrote:
Hmmm, IgnorePkg doesn't work with AUR packages?
have you edited the file
/etc/clyde.conf
?

cat /etc/clyde.conf 
#
# CLYDE OPTIONS
#
[clydeoptions]
Editor = nano
#Colors are enabled by default. To disable them, uncomment the following line
#NoColor
#Searching AUR is enabled by default. Uncomment the following line to only search with --aur
#ReposOnly
#
# /etc/clyde.conf
#
# See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

Include = /etc/pacman.conf

655321 · 2010-07-20 02:12:34

Just installed, wanted to know what was all the buzz lol, looks very promising/fast/stable

I read the man page but im confused, how do you remove uneeded packages?

clyde --stats gives me:

There are 71 packages no longer used by any other package:
akonadi  archlinux-artwork  archlinux-themes-kdm  archlinux-wallpaper  attica  
beanshell  boost  chmlib  ebook-tools  eigen  gegl  ggz-client-libs  git  gksu  
gnokii  gnome-python-extras  gnugo  gsl  gtkglext  hsqldb-java  lib32-jack  
libepc  libgadu  libgdata  libindi  liblastfm  libmsn  libmspack  libotr  
libqalculate  libssh  libtracker  libvncserver  lm_sensors  lucene  openbabel  
openexr  openssh  polkit-qt  poppler-qt  pyqt  python-distutils-extra  
python-egenix-mx-base  python-imaging  python-mako  python-notify  
python-pycurl  python-simplejson  python-xlib  pywebkitgtk  qca-ossl  
qscintilla  qtscriptgenerator  qwt  rdesktop  rpmextract  sane  saxon  
shared-desktop-ontologies  strigi  subversion  taglib-extras  
telepathy-mission-control  telepathy-qt4  tidyhtml  tre  tunepimp  unzip  
vigra  vlc  xplanet

how can i remove that?

cheers

btouellette · 2010-07-20 02:20:54

clyde -Rnsc `clyde -Qdtq`

Bregol · 2010-07-20 02:24:59

right, what btouellette said. Same flags for clyde as you would use with pacman. Just remember to take that list of programs with a grain of salt - just because clyde thinks you may not need it doesn't always mean its a program you would appreciate being gone

655321 · 2010-07-20 02:28:10

btouellette wrote:

clyde -Rnsc `clyde -Qdtq`

Ty, would have never guessed it one more thing though, those packages arent needed by any other app right? I ask cause running that command gives me almost 607mb of free disk space after uninstallation, its a lot if you ask me, and also, I sense somethings wrong, for example:

lib32-libvorbis-1.3.1-2

Isnt that something needed to be able to read vorbis/ogg files?

regards

EDIT: Bregol you read my mind lol

Last edited by 655321 (2010-07-20 02:29:00)

sand_man · 2010-07-20 11:30:37

Isnt that something needed to be able to read vorbis/ogg files?

Yes but only by a 32bit application in a 64bit environment.
If clyde says no application uses it anymore then it's possible that whatever application you were using that needed it, is no longer installed.
This is why you `pacman -Rs` a package instead of just `pacman -R`

 -s, --recursive
           Remove each target specified including all of their dependencies,
           provided that (A) they are not required by other packages; and (B) they
           were not explicitly installed by the user. This operation is recursive
           and analogous to a backwards --sync operation, and helps keep a clean
           system without orphans. If you want to omit condition (B), pass this
           option twice.

drcouzelis · 2010-07-20 13:01:03

When I run clyde, my terminal window (konsole) title bar says "lua". Consider changing clyde to set the title bar to say "clyde".

If this topic has already been discussed, then please just ignore me.

(The other concern I had regarding ctrl-c has already been answered)

Thank you for making clyde!

655321 · 2010-07-21 08:21:17

sand_man wrote:

Isnt that something needed to be able to read vorbis/ogg files?
Yes but only by a 32bit application in a 64bit environment.
If clyde says no application uses it anymore then it's possible that whatever application you were using that needed it, is no longer installed.
This is why you `pacman -Rs` a package instead of just `pacman -R`
 -s, --recursive
           Remove each target specified including all of their dependencies,
           provided that (A) they are not required by other packages; and (B) they
           were not explicitly installed by the user. This operation is recursive
           and analogous to a backwards --sync operation, and helps keep a clean
           system without orphans. If you want to omit condition (B), pass this
           option twice.

Thanks a lot for the info, I will surely keep on removing packages with -Rs switch instead of just -R, but instead of pacman im using clyde

also, I removed all that stuff I mentioned earlier, only problem encountered so far after 3 days of using it, its that VLC player got uninstalled, but I just reinstalled it and all cool

Also I think I found something, if I do:

sudo clyde -Rnsc `clyde -Qdtq`

Now that there is nothing to remove, I get this:

error: no targets specified (use -h for help)

I think this should say something like "nothing to remove...exiting" cause the "no targets specified" at least to me sounds like I didnt input the command right, and people would get crazy trying to fin the right command on the help to no avail. Just my two cents here.

anonymous_user · 2010-07-21 14:05:36

Well the error is correct. If "clyde -Qdtq" returns nothing then it would be like running "sudo clyde -Rnsc" by itself.

valium97582 · 2010-07-26 15:06:43

Why clyde is not showing the deps of the aur packages when I install them?

% clyde -S xulrunner-oss
Password:

==>> Installing from AUR:
xulrunner-oss
Proceed [y/n] y

1. xulrunnerdep1 [#####################################] 100%
(...)
==>Edit PKGBUILD for xulrunner-oss?[y/n]

(...)
%

See? It wont show the deps for aur packages, or even the deps of normal packages, if a aur package is installed in the same command e.g."clyde -S xulrunner-oss racket".

Is this a bug? (Note, I typed the code by hand (I installed it a long time ago (Cannot find the old logs)))

anonymous_user · 2010-07-26 15:24:08

Well I can confirm it:

valium97582 · 2010-07-26 15:34:17

Oh, great. I did not remember a specific package nor get a screenshot. I am mainly concerned because the AUR package could install another that I did not want to. Thank you for the screenshot.

ngoonee · 2010-07-27 00:09:16

valium97582 wrote:

Oh, great. I did not remember a specific package nor get a screenshot. I am mainly concerned because the AUR package could install another that I did not want to. Thank you for the screenshot.

If its listed in 'depends' you would have no choice but to install it anyway if you wanted the first package.

anonymous_user · 2010-07-27 00:20:16

@ngoonee - If valium97582 doesn't like the dependencies, I would guess he/she would choose not to install the program. The point is Clyde doesn't show the dependencies.

valium97582 · 2010-07-29 00:23:38

And, I run the risk of installing a really big dep without noting, with isn't great with the grandma's super slow net connection (20KB/s peak).

cesura · 2010-07-29 01:30:31

valium97582 wrote:

And, I run the risk of installing a really big dep without noting, with isn't great with the grandma's super slow net connection (20KB/s peak).

EDIT: Deleted my stupid response

Last edited by cesura (2010-07-29 01:31:06)

Hund · 2010-08-02 19:52:00

anonymous_user wrote:

@ngoonee - If valium97582 doesn't like the dependencies, I would guess he/she would choose not to install the program. The point is Clyde doesn't show the dependencies.

I totaly agree! I installed both Mono and Pulseaudio by mistake the other day. Thats like the two second worst thing after installting Windows on your computer.

Last edited by Hund (2010-08-02 19:52:30)

ngoonee · 2010-08-02 22:52:48

Hund wrote:

anonymous_user wrote:
@ngoonee - If valium97582 doesn't like the dependencies, I would guess he/she would choose not to install the program. The point is Clyde doesn't show the dependencies.
I totaly agree! I installed both Mono and Pulseaudio by mistake the other day. Thats like the two second worst thing after installting Windows on your computer.

Yep, welcome to the bandwagon. Seriously, is there any necessity to snipe at two fully open-source and heavily developed projects?

Hund · 2010-08-02 23:05:30

ngoonee wrote:

Hund wrote:
anonymous_user wrote:
@ngoonee - If valium97582 doesn't like the dependencies, I would guess he/she would choose not to install the program. The point is Clyde doesn't show the dependencies.
I totaly agree! I installed both Mono and Pulseaudio by mistake the other day. Thats like the two second worst thing after installting Windows on your computer.
Yep, welcome to the bandwagon. Seriously, is there any necessity to snipe at two fully open-source and heavily developed projects?

I dont like em. I share the same opinion as RMS regarding Mono.

linkmaster03 · 2010-08-16 14:58:38

I don't know why this thread is so far down, but I have also noticed the dependency issue. Clyde should show the dependencies after modifying the PKGBUILD, so that you can add dependencies and have them auto-installed by Clyde.

cactus · 2010-08-17 18:09:26

drcouzelis wrote:

When I run clyde, my terminal window (konsole) title bar says "lua". Consider changing clyde to set the title bar to say "clyde".
If this topic has already been discussed, then please just ignore me.

Not sure if anyone will find it useful...but...

I whipped up (might be buggy! I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it) a lua module that provides a mechanism to set the process name (/proc/$PID/status).
Linux 2.6.16+ only, I believe. That is when the kernel added the prctl PR_SET_NAME. Might be 2.6.11? Anyway...

This module _doesn't_ set argv[0], as I don't know if there is a way to get a pointer to that out of the lua runtime via a c-module.
If anyone knows, it should be straightforward to add.

Code: http://l12.awesometrousers.net/stuff/mi … tle.tar.gz

Arch Linux

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