Docks

SkyTod · 2010-07-29 07:08:26

Hi!

I am using gnome panel and have some questions.
1. what the dock i may add to gnome panel that support a lancher and taskbar in one? I find only DockBarX Applet, but it doesn't support lancher(or I didn't find one).
2. how to remove white borders near notification area and DockBarX?

It looks like this.
Thanks in advance!

JackH79 · 2010-07-29 07:16:12

1) Looks like normal launchers to me.

Right click on panel, "Add to panel", "Add Launcher", choose your app, done. In the "add to panel" window you can add other stuff, like taskbar, notification area, etc.
For other launchers you could try out things like Gnome-Do or Cairo-Dock

2) choose another theme / remove transparency

Last edited by JackH79 (2010-07-29 07:18:48)

flamelab · 2010-07-29 07:21:16

Docky (docky-bzr on AUR) is a VERY good dock.

sand_man · 2010-07-29 11:16:36

flamelab wrote:

Docky (docky-bzr on AUR) is a VERY good dock.

Sure if you ignore the mono dependency.

ise · 2010-07-29 11:53:57

sand_man wrote:

Sure if you ignore the mono dependency.

It's just another programming language with a runtime, so why should you ignore this dependency before you can say that docky is very good?
Just because Microsoft initiated the development of C# ?

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Vamp898 · 2010-07-29 12:01:13

First of all becease Mono doesn´t cover everything of GTK+. Mono is stuck on GTK+ 2.12, also Mono needs (in general) more CPU and Memory than C/C++/Vala Applications (best example Tomboy <--> GNote)

I experienced AWN as a good Dock back in my GNOME days. But i dont use Docks anymore. They look good but the look isnt the most important at all. If i want a good looking Desktop which doesnt can do much i use Mac OS X instead of using parts of it on KDE/GNOME. I need my Computer for real work.

ise · 2010-07-29 12:09:36

Vamp898 wrote:

First of all becease Mono doesn´t cover everything of GTK+. Mono is stuck on GTK+ 2.12, also Mono needs (in general) more CPU and Memory than C/C++/Vala Applications (best example Tomboy <--> GNote)

You are right about GTK+ 2.12, but the other comparison about CPU and memory usage is a little bit like comparing apples and oranges. Mono is a runtime and do code compiling to native code at runtime. C/C++/Vala are all in machine code at runtime and therefor mostly use less CPU and memory. So you can't compare native code applications with code running in a runtime.

But we're getting offtopic.

Back to topic: AWN is a great dock, too.

Vamp898 · 2010-07-29 12:21:28

So you can't compare native code applications with code running in a runtime.

sure you can compare. I know that nearly every C# fan hates it becease C# will ever loose in such comparisons but you can compare at all. You dont have any other choose.

Comparing for example Vala with C# isnt comparing Apples with Oranges. C# is getting used in case that you can produce applications in shorter time.

But thats not true at all. With Vala you type the same code (or nearly) than in C# with the difference that the Vala Applications will be much faster in the end. So why not compare?

Sure C# have advantages too like plattform independence, even its about 50% theory cause a lot of applications uses P/Invokes, but thats all.

Plattformindipendence is about the code and not about the language. You can programm Java that it only works on Windows and as Firefox, OpenOffice, KDE and a lot of other pojects proof you can write C++ that it runs on every machine.

So whats the advantage of C# if you take all these things..... nothing. It doesnt have any advantage. And what are the disadvantages? The Speed and the Memory usage. No Advantages but Disadvantages... dont trust the programmer fanboys who fell in love with a programming language, trust the real programmers!!!

But back on topic

i tested AWN on my Ubuntu VM and it seems like some applets causes a break. They work the first time and on the second time the just hang-up on start and causes 100% harddisk usage.

aur/cairo-dock 2.1.3-9 (662)
    A light eye-candy fully themable animated dock for any Linux desktop. It has a family-likeness with OSX dock, but with 
    more options.

does anyone tested it? sounds good and have 662 votes

hokasch · 2010-07-29 12:36:55

If you don't care about the mono dependency, docky is really great.
If you do, just pick something else - cairo-dock for example is very customizable, but a little painful to set up in my experience (used it before discovering docky). It is absolutely loaded with graphic bling (icon animations etc...), but you can turn that off. All in all, give it a try.

Vamp898 · 2010-07-29 14:07:00

Maybe we should first create a list of all docks

anonymous_user · 2010-07-29 14:56:00

SkyTod wrote:

1. what the dock i may add to gnome panel that support a lancher and taskbar in one? I find only DockBarX Applet, but it doesn't support lancher(or I didn't find one).

Just to be clear: Are you looking for something like Window 7's new taskbar?

Vamp898 · 2010-07-29 14:57:49

anonymous_user wrote:

SkyTod wrote:
1. what the dock i may add to gnome panel that support a lancher and taskbar in one? I find only DockBarX Applet, but it doesn't support lancher(or I didn't find one).
Just to be clear: Are you looking for something like Window 7's new taskbar?

If that would be the case, then i would say to use KDE4. There are some Plasmoids for the Taskbar which let KDE4 look exactly like Windows 7

hcjl · 2010-07-29 15:00:52

there's no need for creating such a list. just take a look at "Panels, trays, and pagers" in the openbox wiki http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox .
cheers

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Foucault · 2010-07-29 15:08:32

I've been using cairo-dock for a long time. It's a bit pain to make it look decent. Recently I switched to AWN and somehow it feels more "complete" than cairo-dock (although OpenGL acceleration in cairo-dock is sweet). It can be quite mem intensive and unstable if one uses a lot of applets, though. Personally I'm happy with menu, taskbar, window list and a clock. I've replaced gnome-panel entirely that way. As for Docky, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but it felt quite slow to me.

SkyTod · 2010-07-29 15:21:38

I can't build docky-bzr from AUR.
AWM and cairo-dock aren't supported in gnome panel.

SkyTod · 2010-07-29 15:26:53

anonymous_user wrote:

Just to be clear: Are you looking for something like Window 7's new taskbar?

I didn't know what it has.:D

Vamp898 · 2010-07-30 08:27:38

AWN, not AWM

those all are docks so replacement for panels.

Do you have a screenshot of what you want?

SkyTod · 2010-07-30 21:11:59

Vamp898 wrote:

Do you have a screenshot of what you want?

No. I need something addable to my gnome panel and supported launcher/tasks in one. It's not critical. I just ask, whether does it exist nice solution I may choose.

anonymous_user · 2010-07-30 22:01:28

The gnome-panel already has launchers and tasks but they're separate.

SkyTod · 2010-07-31 06:29:38

anonymous_user wrote:

The gnome-panel already has launchers and tasks but they're separate.

Yeah. You may see it in my screen as well.

briest · 2010-07-31 09:36:31

SkyTod wrote:

1. what the dock i may add to gnome panel that support a lancher and taskbar in one? I find only DockBarX Applet, but it doesn't support lancher(or I didn't find one).

Either drag a launcher from menu to dock, or "pin" (not sure about translation) already running application via context menu.
BTW, I use Window Maker with its dock and it's really nice to see, that dock concept finally comes to other environments after thirteen years or so

skottish · 2010-08-01 01:33:18

briest wrote:

SkyTod wrote:
1. what the dock i may add to gnome panel that support a lancher and taskbar in one? I find only DockBarX Applet, but it doesn't support lancher(or I didn't find one).
Either drag a launcher from menu to dock, or "pin" (not sure about translation) already running application via context menu.

SkyTod,

Is briest's post going in the right direction? I ask because it feels like that there are some language barriers so far is this thread. If briest's post is helpful (and I believe that it is), then I'd like to continue from here.

frabjous · 2010-08-01 02:46:54

SkyTod wrote:

Hi!
I am using gnome panel and have some questions.
1. what the dock i may add to gnome panel that support a lancher and taskbar in one? I find only DockBarX Applet, but it doesn't support lancher(or I didn't find one).
2. how to remove white borders near notification area and DockBarX?
It looks like this.
Thanks in advance!

For the record DockBarX (and DockBar for that matter) is supposed to support launchers. Theoretically you can create a launcher either by right clicking on an icon of a running task and choose "Pin Application", or by creating a regular launcher on the gnome panel and dragging it into DockBarX. The one in AUR (the newest one) however appears to be broken, at least with Arch, and forgets your "pins". (It would be great if someone knew how to fix it.) Try looking for an older one to install, though I've had problems with all the versions I've tried. (It used to work when I ran it under Ubuntu, but I haven't had the same luck under Arch.)

In the meantime, I've taken to using DockBarX just as a task bar, and have created regular gnome panel launchers to go alongside it, but which call a bash script which check to see if a Window for an application is already running (using wmctrl), switch to it if one is, or launch the program if it is not, so the launchers act more like dock icons would.

Meskarune · 2010-08-05 13:53:41

xfce's panel allows you to have launchers that will also indicate a task when the program is open. You might want to check that out. I think xfce really did a good job with their panel.

screenshot of launchers that also show tasks:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/meskarune/2473115837/

Vamp898 · 2010-08-06 18:43:28

I found a new nice very beautiful dock where you can configure a lot

Daisy

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3393 … foto74.jpg

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