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#26 2010-05-16 16:35:25

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

After porting a game to Unix it should not be hard to port it to linux too...

I do not like steam but I would buy it definitely anyway.


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#27 2010-05-16 22:49:19

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Most interesting question for me in between is: Will there be a hack to use the mac version of source-games on linux? Because at least for team fortress 2, wine is far from beeing competetive to native windows, as performance is concerned. Its stuttering... has really heavy framedrops, etc. OpenAL and (native) OpenGL should proabaly be much better. This would be great news, until (if ever) valve realy announces native Linux support.

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#28 2010-05-17 07:07:45

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

uwinkelvos wrote:

Most interesting question for me in between is: Will there be a hack to use the mac version of source-games on linux?

That "hack" would work exactly like how wine works now.

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#29 2010-05-17 14:19:51

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Cdh wrote:

After porting a game to Unix it should not be hard to port it to linux too...

I do not like steam but I would buy it definitely anyway.

You don't have to buy steam tongue

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#30 2010-05-17 14:49:14

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

This is great news for linux community. Anychance to play world of goo natively or portal. I'm there. smile

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#31 2010-05-17 14:53:27

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Jabb3r wrote:

This is great news for linux community. Anychance to play world of goo natively or portal. I'm there. smile

khm, world of goo native linux binaruies are available.

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#32 2010-05-18 07:52:04

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

ijanos wrote:
uwinkelvos wrote:

Most interesting question for me in between is: Will there be a hack to use the mac version of source-games on linux?

That "hack" would work exactly like how wine works now.

yeah, i would call it beer then, anybody should realy write the glue code! smile

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#33 2010-05-18 08:05:38

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

I just cant wait for this..... its the best news i've heard in a long long time... i cannot recall how many times in steam forums we asked for it... how many petitions online... etc, etc.....

Only thing is: They will port the source engine only, not all the steam games (as far as i understand) - so, you will be able to play half life 2 plus all it's derivates/mods/games made with the same engine, BUT, you may not be able to play any other game, lets say... red orchestra? which is made with the UT engine.... am i right?

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#34 2010-05-18 08:12:26

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Xi0N wrote:

I just cant wait for this..... its the best news i've heard in a long long time... i cannot recall how many times in steam forums we asked for it... how many petitions online... etc, etc.....

it is NOT official yet. maybe never will.

Only thing is: They will port the source engine only, not all the steam games (as far as i understand) - so, you will be able to play half life 2 plus all it's derivates/mods/games made with the same engine, BUT, you may not be able to play any other game, lets say... red orchestra? which is made with the UT engine.... am i right?

Yes, though Unreal Engine is cross platform smile

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#35 2010-05-18 08:16:41

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

It IS oficial

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … nouncement

EDIT: OK, not official from steam itself... roll

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#36 2010-05-18 08:24:10

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Xi0N wrote:

It IS oficial

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … nouncement

EDIT: OK, not official from steam itself... roll

Phoronix is faaaaar from being official, and a littly sloppy on accuracy too. All we can say that there are internal linux builds.

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#37 2010-05-18 13:17:40

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

ijanos wrote:
Xi0N wrote:

It IS oficial

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … nouncement

EDIT: OK, not official from steam itself... roll

Phoronix is faaaaar from being official, and a littly sloppy on accuracy too. All we can say that there are internal linux builds.

At least, they are the first that found proves that Valve has plans for Steam in Mac (Official) and possible Linux.

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#38 2010-08-23 04:17:52

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

So to tell you Guys, but Valve have denied that they are working on a Linux Steam Client.....

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar … ?id=261191

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#39 2010-08-23 06:22:44

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

That could mean two things: Either they really have no Linux-related work in progress (which is not likely, since there is proof of lots of Linux specific code in the mac binary), or they just don't want to announce anything until they have something ready to be released.


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#40 2010-08-23 06:46:12

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Or they're not making a Steam Linux client. Why doesn't anybody, anywhere accept that? Always grasping at straws, trying to read into something that isn't there...

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#41 2010-08-23 07:15:00

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

kaddy wrote:

So to tell you Guys, but Valve have denied that they are working on a Linux Steam Client.....

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar … ?id=261191

see, I told you.

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#42 2010-08-23 08:22:24

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Mountainjew wrote:

Or they're not making a Steam Linux client. Why doesn't anybody, anywhere accept that? Always grasping at straws, trying to read into something that isn't there...

I quote myself:

(which is not likely, since there is proof of lots of Linux specific code in the mac binary)

And by "lots", I mean "LOTS", including but not limited to a Linux binary (which some guys at Phoronix managed to run the GUI) and a lot of Linux specific code in the dmg binary.

You are right, maybe they did write lots and lots of code they will never use. Why would that be weird?


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#43 2010-08-23 08:47:50

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

dcc24 wrote:

You are right, maybe they did write lots and lots of code they will never use. Why would that be weird?

Citation needed.

ps: They have plenty of linux binaries. Dedicated servers.

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#44 2010-08-23 09:07:17

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

It's obviously not ready:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n … &px=ODIwNQ
But it is indeed a binary of the steam client that somehow does run on linux.


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#45 2010-08-23 09:14:23

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

This is getting damn interesting...

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#46 2010-08-23 09:24:29

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Oh guys, come on. This is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.

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#47 2010-08-23 09:38:17

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

@ijanos: Citation given at post #44. Considering what's shown on that source, how is it a conspiracy theory?


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#48 2010-08-23 09:54:52

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

dcc24 wrote:

@ijanos: Citation given at post #44. Considering what's shown on that source, how is it a conspiracy theory?

What is shown? Because I saw a Steam logo in a screenshot. Could anyone even reproduce that? I don't know what all the fuss is about, valve works with linux, they have linux dedicated servers, they probably have a linux steam client to test some stuff. So what? What you guys hoping for is that they will port games to linux and release the whole Steam platform for linux. They said many times that they are not planning that and I see reason not to believe them. Drawing conclusions form some shell scripts and binaries and saying that they are secretly working on a linux client is a conspiracy theory.

Lets hope that they are working on HL2 Episode 3 instead smile

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#49 2010-08-23 10:03:32

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Well that's just POV. We are all entitled to have one smile


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#50 2010-08-23 12:54:54

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Re: Steam (+ Source engine) coming to Linux

Guys… Do you really beliveve that Steam will be release on Linux?

I'm quite sure it won't…

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