Compositing "temporarily disabled" after upgrading o kde 4.5

ffjia · 2010-08-25 02:10:22

Compositing state automatically turns to "temporarily disabled" after upgrading to kde 4.5.

When I click "Resume Desktop Effects", it can resume. But after a system reboot, it's set to "temporarily disabled" again.

Anyone also has this problem?

i915, intel i5

Skripka · 2010-08-25 02:27:29

ffjia wrote:

Compositing state automatically turns to "temporarily disabled" after upgrading to kde 4.5.
When I click "Resume Desktop Effects", it can resume. But after a system reboot, it's set to "temporarily disabled" again.
Anyone also has this problem?
i915, intel i5

Check the News item on the Arch front page regarding KDE4.5

ffjia · 2010-08-25 02:48:03

Skripka wrote:

Check the News item on the Arch front page regarding KDE4.5

Thanks, what I want to know is, the compositing seemed work fine here, why
can't I enable it by default? Do I have to enable it manually eath time
after reboot?jj

Skripka · 2010-08-25 02:57:10

ffjia wrote:

Skripka wrote:
Check the News item on the Arch front page regarding KDE4.5
Thanks, what I want to know is, the compositing seemed work fine here, why
can't I enable it by default? Do I have to enable it manually eath time
after reboot?jj

I think instructions are buried in here:

http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 17658.html

Somewhere in the second message I think...

ffjia · 2010-08-25 04:59:49

Skripka wrote:

I think instructions are buried in here:
http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 17658.html
Somewhere in the second message I think...

Yes, my kwinrc has Compositing enabled, as before. But everytime I login
it is disabled.

I disable functionality checks, it seemed ok now.

Thanks man

Abaddon · 2010-08-25 07:14:23

Compositing doesn't work for me with OpenGL when using two monitors. It does with one monitor. I have IBM T43 with Mobility Radeon X300. Is this known issue or should I submit a bug report?

ffjia · 2010-08-25 07:30:42

Abaddon wrote:

Compositing doesn't work for me with OpenGL when using two monitors. It does with one monitor. I have IBM T43 with Mobility Radeon X300. Is this known issue or should I submit a bug report?

I can use Compositing with two monitors without any problems, lenovo thinkpad 410s and a AOC lcd monitor.

ssri · 2010-08-25 08:38:13

ffjia wrote:

I can use Compositing with two monitors without any problems, lenovo thinkpad 410s and a AOC lcd monitor.

Information regarding your videocard/chip will be more than helpful since your laptop is likely to be equipped with an Intel GMA, whereas the author you responded to has a legacy ati card, which is only supported by the opensource radeon drivers. Works-for-me(tm) does not apply where there are different video hardware and drivers involved.

Last edited by ssri (2010-08-25 08:40:24)

ffjia · 2010-08-25 09:13:22

Yep, it's hardware related issue, I just want to provide a little useful infomation, though.

gabriel9 · 2010-08-25 10:31:30

For me there is a issue with screen flickering(disappear), window flickering(disappear), panel/plasmoids flickering(disappear) when using Desktop Effects with OpenGL Composition type. But i had no crashes, or something like that just few Kwin dies. With XRender Composition type all is fine but sluggish..
Graphic Card: Ati Radeon 3850HD
KDE: latest form extra.
Should i write bug report or something?

yejun · 2010-08-25 17:52:59

I have same problem with catalyst and 5830 mobile.

Rumpa · 2010-08-25 18:16:27

I also have the flickering and disappearing windows problem with opengl composition. I'm using ati mobility radeon HD 4650 with xf86-video-ati.

microcz · 2010-08-25 19:53:10

I upgraded to KDE 4.5 today...when i restarted i've got message that Kwin crashed and since then compositing is disabled. When tried to enabling it i've got message: "Desktop Effects have been suspended by another applications". I have gma950 graphic card.

Last edited by microcz (2010-08-25 19:58:02)

Gillian00 · 2010-08-25 20:05:18

same here: xsessions-errors:

kwin(18588) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL vendor is "ATI Technologies Inc."
kwin(18588) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL renderer is "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670"
kwin(18588) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: GL version is "1.4 (3.3.10151 Compatibility Profile Context FireGL)"
kwin(18588) KWin::CompositingPrefs::detectDriverAndVersion: Detected driver "fglrx" , version "3.3.1015"
kwin(18588): ""fsrestore1" - conversion of "0,0,0,0" to QRect failed"
kwin(18588) KWin::Workspace::setupCompositing: KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender.
kwin(18588): Failed to initialize compositing, compositing disabled
kwin(18588): Consult http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4 … Setting_up

what can I do ?

DarksideEE7 · 2010-08-25 21:50:20

That's a really nice new option that doesn't work on a vast array of hardware. Well nice to know it's easily prevented. I wondered why my compositing was disabled. Now if I can figure out when alt+f1 a second time it doesn't close kmenu.

Last edited by DarksideEE7 (2010-08-25 22:01:26)

Kalinda · 2010-08-25 22:23:37

Setting the DisableChecks to True in kwinrc fixed the problem for me.

I am wondering, though - what exactly is causing this? Is it a hardware issue because I have an intel video card? This is my laptop and my desktop is using an Nvidia video card, will I have any issues with my desktop?

DarksideEE7 · 2010-08-26 00:18:09

Kalinda wrote:

Setting the DisableChecks to True in kwinrc fixed the problem for me.
I am wondering, though - what exactly is causing this? Is it a hardware issue because I have an intel video card? This is my laptop and my desktop is using an Nvidia video card, will I have any issues with my desktop?

I don't know about NVidia, but my Intel laptop didn't keep compositing enabled by default. However my ATI card in my desktop (4870X2) didn't have any trouble with it. I don't really notice any difference in windows behind konsole with transparency enabled.

With my laptop I just disabled blur. I guess I could try enabling it and disabling functionality checks, but I probably won't bother.

ffjia · 2010-08-26 01:19:13

I also have flickering and disappearing windows problem with opengl
composition, in the system tray area. It's kind of annoying....

I found that there are new entries in kwinrc file, about blacklist

[$Version]
update_info=kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off,kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus1,kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama,kwin_blacklist.up
d:Blacklist-4.5

[Blacklist][Blur]
Advanced Micro Devices=DRI R600:-:7.8.1,DRI R600:-:7.8.2
Ati=Radeon HD 3650:-:3.3.9901
NVIDIA=GeForce 6150/PCI/SSE2:-:195

[Blacklist][Lanczos]
Advanced Micro Devices=DRI R600:-:7.8.1,DRI R600:-:7.8.2
Intel=GM45 Express Chipset GEM 20100328:-:7.8.2,GM45 Express Chipset GEM 20091221:-:7.7.1,965GM GEM 20100328 2010Q1:-:7.8.2,965GM GEM 20091221 2009Q4:-:7.7.1,Ironlake Mobile GEM 2
0100328:-:7.8.2

I am not sure whether this cause the "temporarily disabled" situation or not.
But it looks like the KDE devs know that some video cards may not work well
with Compositing....

Gillian00 · 2010-08-26 07:55:16

Kalinda wrote:

Setting the DisableChecks to True in kwinrc fixed the problem for me.
I am wondering, though - what exactly is causing this? Is it a hardware issue because I have an intel video card? This is my laptop and my desktop is using an Nvidia video card, will I have any issues with my desktop?

It works now but I had to put this line :

OpenGLIsUnsafe=false

Last edited by Gillian00 (2010-08-26 08:02:41)

Slurp · 2010-08-26 09:13:46

I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400. In 4.4.X it used to work flawlessly but now every time I log in compositing is disabled. If enabled then screen flickers with every KWin effect.

I checked the ATI page in the wiki for some errors I had and the problem mitigated a bit but is still there. Should I just wait for better software or file a bug report or what? I know there are workarounds but I don't want to workaround the problem, I want to solve it.

loafer · 2010-08-26 09:25:18

Slurp wrote:

I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400. In 4.4.X it used to work flawlessly but now every time I log in compositing is disabled. If enabled then screen flickers with every KWin effect.
I checked the ATI page in the wiki for some errors I had and the problem mitigated a bit but is still there. Should I just wait for better software or file a bug report or what? I know there are workarounds but I don't want to workaround the problem, I want to solve it.

Post 4 contains a link which will lead you to the bug report(s).

Slurp · 2010-08-26 09:56:16

loafer wrote:

Slurp wrote:
I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400. In 4.4.X it used to work flawlessly but now every time I log in compositing is disabled. If enabled then screen flickers with every KWin effect.
I checked the ATI page in the wiki for some errors I had and the problem mitigated a bit but is still there. Should I just wait for better software or file a bug report or what? I know there are workarounds but I don't want to workaround the problem, I want to solve it.
Post 4 contains a link which will lead you to the bug report(s).

mmm... but i think that's not my bug. My screen is updated always, but it flickers when there's a kwin effect involved. Am I wrong?

gabriel9 · 2010-08-26 10:17:32

Someone can put some light on this?
I don't know should i submit bug or?
This reminds me on time when i used Catalyst drivers for my card and when i watched video i get flickering.

ulixes · 2010-08-26 20:29:47

*hands up*
I have the problem too. I'm using the ATI IGP 4250 HD, with the open source drivers xf86-video-ati. When i'm enabling the desktop effects, everything starts to flicker. After some time, KDE just disables compositing due to "slow performance". I also tried to shut the machine to sleep mode while running the desktop effects. When the machine wakes up, the rendering looks even more broken. It flickers extremly.

Another issue about KDE 4.5: kdm doesn't save the last logged in user anymore.

DStein · 2010-08-26 23:57:06

ulixes wrote:

Another issue about KDE 4.5: kdm doesn't save the last logged in user anymore.

It does for me on a fresh install, but it does not on another machine that was upgraded from 4.4.5 to 4.5. I'm currently too aggravated to investigate the cause.

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Compositing "temporarily disabled" after upgrading o kde 4.5

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