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#76 2010-08-20 05:13:27

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

tomk wrote:

FYI that script runs 'pacman -Sy <packages>' - this is not recommended, as it could cause dependency issues.

Thanks for pointing this out, I was unaware of this.  What should it do instead?


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#77 2010-08-20 18:06:10

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

pacman -Syu <packages>

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#78 2010-08-20 21:16:42

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

Ah okay, figured it might be something like that.


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#79 2010-08-20 21:30:37

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

I've been watching (and sometimes participating) in this thread from the beginning, so here are some suggestions:

- Use packer instead of bauerbill. Why? It has a much higher level of pacman resemblence (i.e. look&feel) and, IMHO it works faster.
- The default set of applications is huge! Almost 700 packages for a simple lightweight WM? I think it would be nice if you removed all the non-essential stuff (around 300-400 packages I'd say) and let the user install whatever they want to, after your script finishes.

Other than these, this project seems to be progressing quite well. Keep up the good work!


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#80 2010-08-20 23:03:05

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

I am also wondering if you could post the exact instructions somewhere?
from reading the thread I assume it's

1) install a base ARCH system

2) download and run the script

3) reboot into new Afterglow Edition

is that somewhat correct or no?

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#81 2010-08-20 23:14:07

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

dcc24 wrote:

I've been watching (and sometimes participating) in this thread from the beginning, so here are some suggestions:

- Use packer instead of bauerbill. Why? It has a much higher level of pacman resemblence (i.e. look&feel) and, IMHO it works faster.
- The default set of applications is huge! Almost 700 packages for a simple lightweight WM? I think it would be nice if you removed all the non-essential stuff (around 300-400 packages I'd say) and let the user install whatever they want to, after your script finishes.

Other than these, this project seems to be progressing quite well. Keep up the good work!

The reason why I used bauerbill however, is because its a lot easier to integrate into the script, as Xyne has a custom repo that you can download it from, and thus you can install it with pacman itself that way.  I will also probably slim down on the package count as well.

72linus wrote:

I am also wondering if you could post the exact instructions somewhere?
from reading the thread I assume it's

1) install a base ARCH system

2) download and run the script

3) reboot into new Afterglow Edition

is that somewhat correct or no?

This is exactly correct, although I think it an install of base-devel is needed, not sure if I fixed that in the script yet.


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#82 2010-08-20 23:46:35

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

ok
I'm gonna clear a partition and try it tonight
can I edit the script for what pkg's it's gonna install,etc?
I assume so...

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#83 2010-08-21 00:25:38

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

72linus wrote:

ok
I'm gonna clear a partition and try it tonight
can I edit the script for what pkg's it's gonna install,etc?
I assume so...

Yeah, go ahead.


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#84 2010-08-21 11:18:17

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

something may have went awry...

1) is this the current script here?
http://afterglowlinux.co.cc/x/archlinux … ion.tar.gz

2) my desktop looks nothing like the screenshots here; thers no wallpaper
and no way to "set" wallpaper?

3) the script kept conking out saying the BROWSER line was bad
cant remember exact error, one of those syntax things or ?

maybe I was using old script?

EDIT: I also have no internet connection (wired DSL)
I noticed the wallpaper is in /home/myname/*/wallpapers but nitrogen doesn't load it

also noticed this
[root@nfluxos root]# ls -al
total 5380
drwxr-x---  5 root root    4096 Aug 21 07:20 .
drwxr-xr-x 20 root root    4096 Aug 20 21:14 ..
-rw-------  1 root root     302 Aug 21 07:24 .bash_history
drwx------  3 root root    4096 Aug 21 07:20 .dbus
-rw-------  1 root root       0 Aug 21 07:20 .gtk-bookmarks
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root    4096 Aug 21 07:20 .thumbnails
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   13387 Aug 20 21:09 afterglow-install.sh
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 5452241 Aug  6 21:38 alae-theme-dusk-tradstruc.tar.gz
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root    4096 Aug 20 21:24 skeldir

inside the "skeldir" I had to move all that to user's home to get anything to start
I assume "skeldir" was supposed to goto /etc/skel?
why didn't it?

so, major issue is no net connection...

EDIT: ok got network up
and also when I try to exit pekwm nothing happens?
and lxappearance2 doesnt work

Last edited by 72linus (2010-08-21 12:12:10)

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#85 2010-08-21 15:06:51

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

Yeah, you were using the old script.  The new instructions are posted here.

Though, I may need to add dmenu to the list of programs to be installed so the exit menu works (not sure if I added that fix yet), either that or just do that differently.

Last edited by kmason (2010-08-21 15:09:32)


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#86 2010-08-22 00:03:38

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

hey kmason
I redid the whole install using new script
but same results

1) same error with browser selection

[root@nfluxos root]# sh ./afterglow-install.sh
./afterglow-install.sh: line 369: syntax error near unexpected token `BROWSERCHOICES="Firefox Midori Surf"'
./afterglow-install.sh: line 369: `BROWSERCHOICES="Firefox Midori Surf"'

2) the new user's /home directory doesnt get populated by /etc/skel because /root/skeldir was never transferred to /etc/skel
thats where its supposed to go right?

3) dmenu is not installed by default
However; even after installing dmenu the exit menu doesn't work

4) lxappearance2 doesn't work
it doesn't work in ubuntu meerkat, slackware, or arch...why?

5) wallpaper doesnt get set and is in 2 places
/home/guest/*/wallpapers/default.png
/home/guest/images/wallpapers/default.png

to remedy the exit menu problem I used "shutdown-dialog.sh" that I use in most of my livecd's
I also edited menu for logout

    Entry = "Logout" { Actions = "exit" }

      INCLUDE = "exitmenu"

exitmenu:

Entry = "Exit" { Actions = "Exec /usr/bin/shutdown-dialog.sh" }

I installed lxappearance and got rid of lxappearance2

Had to manually move /root/skeldir/* to /home/guest/

Had to edit browserchoices in afterglow-install.sh

Also, if I may suggest some things:

use pcmanfm-mod instead of thunar (thunar doesn't show any partitions while pcmanfm-mod shows every partition,etc)
any way to get a auto-update menu script?

There also seem to be many commands not working as when exiting X I see many errors related to not giving absolute paths,etc

I am going to make this install into a LiveCD/USB for "testdrive" purposes for those who want to check out AfterGlow
without having to install it,etc...

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#87 2010-08-22 00:39:46

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

@72linus - try deleting ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and then see if lxappearance2 works.

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#88 2010-08-22 02:04:18

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

That worked beautifully anonymous_user!
Thank you very much
I would have never guessed it!?

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#89 2010-08-22 16:25:52

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

OK
I am uploading the iso I made from my afterglow install kmason
it should be ready to download by 2PM est
and I'll post link at bottom of this post when done

meanwhile; this is what I have added to your install

1) afterglow-installer (hdd installer, very simple and can only install lilo)
grub is included and as with my other iso's I recommend the "manual-install" (its easy)
also read /usr/share/doc/manual-install fo setting up /etc/fstab, mtab, and lilo.cfg

2) cd/usb persistence wizard, for cd/usb persistence

3) su-to-root from debian, a script that makes sudo/gksu easier

4) xconf, autoconfigure X

5) Ritchie's linux-live-6.3.0_x86 in /root to remaster into whatever

I didnt include gnumeric/inkscape
installed pcmanfm-mod, edited pekwm menus, etc
also setup root desktop

user/passwords are

user: guest
password: guest

user: root
password: toor

I noticed that I installed xf86-video-nouveau and it wont start X, when using livecd/usb, if after doing xconf X wont start because of nouveau
do "pacman -R xf86-video-nouveau", redo xconf and its ok

also includes all xf86-* stuff incl Vesa too

ok its ready
570MB iso + md5sum
http://multidistro.com/distros/arch/aft … 8-i686.iso

md5sum
http://multidistro.com/distros/arch/aft … iso.md5sum

Screenshot
http://multidistro.com/distros/arch/aft … rglow1.png

burn to cd or better is put on usb manually using isomaster, or use unetbootin
its just a "scratched together" test iso so its not perfect

Last edited by 72linus (2010-08-22 20:00:33)

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#90 2010-08-22 19:19:27

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

kmason wrote:

The reason why I used bauerbill however, is because its a lot easier to integrate into the script, as Xyne has a custom repo that you can download it from, and thus you can install it with pacman itself that way.

You can do the same for packer as follows:

$ wget -c http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/packer/packer.tar.gz
$ tar -xzf packer.tar.gz && cd packer
$makepkg -i --noconfirm packer*.pkg.xz

Voila! You can now use packer for all operations smile

Last edited by dcc24 (2010-08-22 19:20:04)


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#91 2010-08-25 12:32:05

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

72linus - Wow, awesome.  With any luck, soon this will be more than just a script!

dcc24 - I should have thought of that, lol.  Although, now I am thinking of just making a custom repository that is uploaded on the website, and using that with just plain pacman.  I'm also going to convert the default settings and such into packages as well if I do this, which makes the script a lot more simple.

Last edited by kmason (2010-08-25 12:32:41)


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#92 2010-08-29 04:49:01

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

Update:  72linus made a new iso image.  Go check it out!


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#93 2010-08-30 06:35:08

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

kmason wrote:

Update:  72linus made a new iso image.  Go check it out!

Thats awesome! (and here I was gonna suggest something add but seeing that an iso is already made; it kinda makes my point, a bit moot).


If you're reading this; you're awesome.

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#94 2010-08-31 14:25:03

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

OK kmason
your name in lights!
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/O … 9727.shtml

now its on you if you want it updated/made how you want just remaster it
if you need help holler back

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#95 2010-09-02 21:09:10

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

72linus, I just tried out the ISO yesterday, and I even figured out the remastering stuff, and I must say, you did an amazing job on it.  However, I have one request, that I will be emailing you about.


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#96 2010-09-24 10:44:06

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

any progress? this is a promising project :-)


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#97 2010-09-24 13:11:07

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

Great thing.I wish I could help out but sadly I'm a linux noob myself.
Will definitely try this and report back.Good luck with the project.

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#98 2010-09-24 14:20:43

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

Labello wrote:

any progress? this is a promising project :-)

As soon as 72linus finishes that request I emailed him about, there will be a new ISO remastered by me, one that will change things drastically, for the better.


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#99 2010-09-24 14:29:42

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

hey kmason
I'm finishing it today
still havent figured out the website thing?!
do I put all that stuff somewhere for apache2/lamp thing?
I'll email you more about that too

as for AfterGlow Live, it will have kernel26-pf (6) with grub legacy
with that grub app you wanted right?
remoove grub2/lilo?
also, the afterglow-installer can only use lilo, etc
so I must either install archiso-installer(untested)
or user must use manual-install method outlined in /usr/share/doc/manual-install, it s easy copy/paste commands into terminal
setup /etc/fstab/mtab etc

I will try the archiso-installer in VM to see if it works, but does it work with grub-legacy or grub2?
idk

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#100 2010-09-24 15:00:46

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Re: Arch Linux Afterglow Edition

very cool to hear. my virtualbox is waiting for the isos!


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