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#1 2010-09-09 23:55:37

DarksideEE7
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.cue file track listing in amarok

I have some albums in lossless format that have the following format:

4.0K -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root 2.1K Jul 16 16:17 trainofthought2.log
491M -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root 491M Sep  9 18:35 trainofthought.flac
4.0K -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root  791 Jul 16 16:17 trainofthought.flac.cue
 512 -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root  107 Jul 16 16:17 trainofthought.md5
4.0K -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root  790 Jul 16 16:17 trainofthought.wav.cue
4.0K -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root 1.9K Jul 16 16:17 trainofthought.wav.log
4.0K -rwxrwxrwx 2 l33 root 1.7K Jul 16 16:17 trainofthought.wav.toc

Here is the cuesheet:

CATALOG 0075596289122
FILE "trainofthought.flac" FLAC
PERFORMER "Dream Theater"
TITLE "Train of Thought"
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340685
    TITLE "As I Am"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340686
    TITLE "This Dying Soul"
    INDEX 01 07:47:62
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340687
    TITLE "Endless Sacrifice"
    INDEX 00 19:12:08
    INDEX 01 19:15:22
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340688
    TITLE "Honor Thy Father"
    INDEX 00 30:38:46
    INDEX 01 30:39:57
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340689
    TITLE "Vacant"
    INDEX 00 40:51:23
    INDEX 01 40:53:67
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340690
    TITLE "Stream of Consciousness"
    INDEX 01 43:51:20
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    ISRC USEE10340691
    TITLE "In the Name of God"
    INDEX 01 55:07:40
~

I can play them in Amarok, however they don't load the cuesheet where the tracks are listed.  The album just shows as one large song.  I'm able to load them just fine with foobar in Windows 7.  I have installed the following packages that I thought were relevant:
cuetools
libcuefile
mac-port (monkey audio codec)

If all else fails I suppose I can convert them to flac....if anyone has suggestions for a good program that can do that I would appreciate it.

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#2 2010-09-10 00:58:39

Xabre
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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

Try using phonon-vlc for Phonon backend.
Also, amarok-git would be nice, as they've made some progress recently about cuesheets.
I've benn using that combination for a while, and it works quite OK (as in: phonon-vlc is still a little buggy, but nothing tragic).

(Amarok 2.3.2 should be out soon, perhaps in a couple of days, so you may also wait a bit if you don't want to use git version).


EDIT: Just saw that you've also asked for a recomendation on some other player that can do the job.
If Amarok fails, you might wanna try DeadBeef, I've heard a few recomendations about it, though I personally don't like its interface.

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#3 2010-09-10 01:01:40

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

All right I'll check that out.  I never noticed that there was a git of Amarok.  I have phonon-vlc installed so I'll check that out as well.

As an aside, have you been able to get SPDIF pass through working with phonon-vlc?  I have gstreamer installed ans set as default for phonon and I have been able to play DTS test files as well as movies, however the bitstream will just stop in the middle of playback and go mute.  Well either that or make terrible noises.

This is on an Auzentech Prelude digital coax SPDIF out to a Denon receiver.  All of the passthrough works fine in Windows.  Also I've selected  this device:

card 0: XFi [Creative X-Fi], device 4: ctxfi [IEC958 Non-audio]

and I can play a DTS test track using:

aplay -D iec958:CARD=XFi,DEV=0 SURROUNDTEST_011212.wav

I guess gstreamer is just unstable on my card?

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#4 2010-09-10 01:07:14

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

Trying phonon-xine and phonon-gstreamer was actually the first thing we all did, as phonon-vlc only recently become stable and usable,
Both xine and gstreamer didn't work for me, because, though they could read the cuesheet, they've always played only the first song in the sheet (guess it's some sort of a bug).

Luckily, I also found that vlc backend has a much better sound, but that very much depends on ones musical taste. smile

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#5 2010-09-10 01:18:20

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

Are you running phonon-vlc-git or the [extra] version?

I listen to mainly progressive rock, jazz, and metal.  I listen to a little drum n bass here and there, but not very often.  Mostly I listen using my Sennheiser HD555s via 3.5mm cable to Front In on my Auzentech Prelude.  I may get a headphone amp sometime to test, but I'm unsure of the performance gain vs just using my sound card to drive them.

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#6 2010-09-10 01:26:59

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

Since phonon-vlc became available in [extra] I use that package.
I don't think that there is a good reason to use git version right now. (phonon-vlc is only sort of a "binding" for Phonon which enables it to use VLC as its backend, so it would probably be a much better idea to compile vlc-git than phonon-vlc-git for new features. wink )

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#7 2010-09-10 01:30:45

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

Well it failed to build anyway, LOL.  It may be because I use -j6 for CFLAGS in order to allow g++ to use all 4 cores.  Anyhow, installing now.  Maybe that will fix my SPDIF passthrough problem.....


Also are there any additional plugins that you use for phonon-vlc?  For instance with gstreamer I installed a boatload of random packages:

[l33@waterbeast ~]$ sudo pacman -Q|grep gstream
gstreamer0.10 0.10.30-1
gstreamer0.10-bad 0.10.19-1
gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins 0.10.19-1
gstreamer0.10-base 0.10.30-1
gstreamer0.10-base-plugins 0.10.30-1
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 0.10.10-1
gstreamer0.10-good 0.10.24-1
gstreamer0.10-good-plugins 0.10.24-1
gstreamer0.10-python 0.10.18-1
gstreamer0.10-ugly 0.10.15-4
gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins 0.10.15-4
phonon-gstreamer 4.4.2-1

Really not sure if that was necessary, but my home partition along is 1.2TB.........so why not.

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#8 2010-09-10 01:40:24

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

Hm, not quite sure, but I don't think that VLC requires any additional plugin, at least for cueshhets.

Try it in a plain VLC: if it works, there souldn't be any problems with phonon-vlc enabled Amarok.

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#9 2010-09-10 01:52:16

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

I got a little chuckle.  It's like we're children!
lolamarok.th.png

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Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but the sound is much fuller, with better low and mid frequencies.  I was really concerned about the sound quality of my audio in Arch on my desktop since it seemed like the driver wasn't doing my card justice.  Maybe it was just the backend after all.

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#10 2010-09-10 04:58:36

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

So do you get an input delay when you try to skip to a different part of a song?  I also get input delay (~500ms) when I pause and play.  This is only on phonon-vlc.  I switched back to gstreamer to confirm and it reacted instantly to my keyboard hotkeys (meta+ctrl+space for play/pause).

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#11 2010-09-10 06:21:11

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Re: .cue file track listing in amarok

I wasn't able to get the tracks to list when playing a .flac file or .cue file with amarok-git and either phonon-vlc or xine.  If I can't get it working I'm going to just split the files using their cuesheet.  This seems to be a good one.  One is just the qt front end:

aur/shntool 3.0.10-1
aur/qshntoolsplit

On another side note regarding SPDIF:
I've been playing around with xine and vlc-phonon trying to get one of them to keep stable while streaming DTS and Dolby Digital.  I can get both DTS and Dolby Digital just fine, but if I slide the seek cursor forward too many times the stream will fail and it just gives up. 

Still testing to see if there is a way around this.  It's very annoying.

EDIT:

It looks like it's the kernel module snd_ctxfi causing the instability rather than the backend because I get the same results no matter which backend I use.  Until I try to move to certain parts of the movie DTS works beautifully.

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