Just a silly question - Operation not permitted [SOLVED]

Aventinus · 2010-09-13 06:49:23

Hello, this is my first post in this great forum. I'm not a total newb in Linux. But I'm not a pro either. I was using Ubuntu for 1,5 years now (well maybe that makes me a newb) and swiched to Arch and already feel like home. I made a dual boot Arch + Windows 7 (need WIndows for games) and already installed the GNOME DE. Although propably I'm going to install Openbox + tint2.

Let's get to the point. This propably will sound silly (but what the heck, we're in the newbie's corner )
When I'm about to create a folder/file in the external HDDs I get the error

Error while creating directory
Operation not permited

How do I get rid of that?

Thank you in advance.

Last edited by Aventinus (2010-09-13 10:14:12)

toad · 2010-09-13 06:56:12

You need to get into the business of rights. user rights, root rights, how you want to mount external drives (so the user or root only have access). For starters, check the wiki entry for fstab http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab

HTH

Cdh · 2010-09-13 06:57:13

It has probably ntfs as filesystem?

The ntfs driver in the linux kernel is not so advanced... You should install ntfs-3g:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G

I don't know the proper way to make it use ntfs-3g as default but ntfs-config is a little graphical tool that makes it default:
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8178

Aventinus · 2010-09-13 08:32:03

@ Cdh Yes both hard drives are NTFS. I installed ntfs-3G and I want to install ntfs-config so I can make my life easier but ntfs-config doesn't exist at the package database. The only way is to compile it? I tried but failed.

Also, making both HDDs FAT32 would solve the problem?

Thank you both for the quick answers.

fsckd · 2010-09-13 08:42:26

Set the appropriate mount options.

Do you mean this ntfs-config?

Aventinus · 2010-09-13 09:09:42

fsckd wrote:

Set the appropriate mount options.
Do you mean this ntfs-config?

Yes I mean this ntfs-config. It is not in the Package Database. I try to compile it from source but I fail.

This is how my /etc/fstab looks like:

#
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# <file system>        <dir>         <type>    <options>          <dump> <pass>
devpts                 /dev/pts      devpts    defaults            0      0
shm                    /dev/shm      tmpfs     nodev,nosuid        0      0

#/dev/cdrom             /media/cd   auto    ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
#/dev/dvd               /media/dvd  auto    ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
#/dev/fd0               /media/fl   auto    user,noauto             0      0

/dev/sda3 /boot ext2 defaults 0 1
/dev/sda5 / ext4 defaults 0 1
/dev/sda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/sda7 /home ext4 defaults 0 1

This is how fdisk looks like:

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xac35ab34

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *        2048  1953521663   976759808    7  HPFS/NTFS

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x309b4f4d

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2          206848   488593407   244193280    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3   *   488593408   488786187       96390   83  Linux
/dev/sda4       488786188   976768064   243990938+   5  Extended
/dev/sda5       488786251   528788037    20000893+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6       528788101   536788407     4000153+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7       536788471   976768064   219989797   83  Linux

Disk /dev/sdd: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x469d60df

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd1   *          63  1953520064   976760001    7  HPFS/NTFS

sda is a 500GB hard driver where I have installed both Arch and Windows 7. sdb and sdd are the 2 NTFS hard drivers which I use for data.
As a user I cannot right or read in those 2 hard drives. Can you point out how to set the appropriate mount options?

Formating them as FAT32 won't be a problem for me. Would that solve the write permission problem?

Again thank you in advance.

fsckd · 2010-09-13 09:25:12

Aventinus wrote:

fsckd wrote:
Set the appropriate mount options.
Do you mean this ntfs-config?
Yes I mean this ntfs-config. It is not in the Package Database. I try to compile it from source but I fail.

We can try to help you with that if you give more information.

sda is a 500GB hard driver where I have installed both Arch and Windows 7. sdb and sdd are the 2 NTFS hard drivers which I use for data.
As a user I cannot right or read in those 2 hard drives. Can you point out how to set the appropriate mount options?

Mount options are described in man mount.ntfs-3g. Specifically, uid and gid.

Formating them as FAT32 won't be a problem for me. Would that solve the write permission problem?

You would still need to set the right mount options, which is the problem you're having here.

Aventinus · 2010-09-13 10:13:16

Problem solved! I typed:

ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /home/alexandros/ -o ro,uid=1000

and I have permision to write as a user!

Thank you all for your help!

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