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#1 2005-04-22 02:25:38

ingvildr
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framebuffer

i just did my first pacman -Syu since installing 0.7, and now when it boots up i get an arch logo in the top left and framebuffering, how do i stop this?, it causes me problems.

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#2 2005-04-22 03:07:23

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Re: framebuffer

it's a vga parameter on your kernel - check lilo.conf/menu.lst depending on if you use lilo/grub and remove the "vga=XXX" parameter

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#3 2005-04-22 03:14:03

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Re: framebuffer

i checked in /boot/grub/menu.lst and looked for vga but its not there, i had this issue with slackware 10.1, it would change to a framebuffer, hmmm there must be something i can do, because now when i exit xfce4 i cant see any prompts just a blank screen  :?

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#4 2005-04-22 03:17:10

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Re: framebuffer

ermmm... dibble? I think he might know (due to gensplash and all) - otherwise, I'm at a loss...
does fstab list your boot partition as "noauto" - if so, do a "mount /boot" then check menu.lst again

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#5 2005-04-22 03:24:43

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Re: framebuffer

hmm there is a delay between starting arch linux from the grub menu and the framebuffer kicking in, so i think thats grub ruled out. I did get something called startup-notification 0.8, and at the time i thought the version number at boot would change but no just the framebuffering could this be why?

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#6 2005-04-22 03:30:47

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Re: framebuffer

Boy am I glad there's somebody else with this problem!!!  I though my hardware was going Phlewey.  Arch starts to boot...kernel decompresses...then it does what it normally does when you have vga=something in menu.lst.  But I have nothing like that in there.  I tried it, but my video card won't handle the resolutions that look good, so I took it out.  I rolled a new kernel without the arch logo.  Even took out logo support all together.  Still does it.  The screen is not completely blank, but the lettering is so screwed up none of it is readable. 
I just carefully type username/password then startx and all is fine.  Would be nice if someone could tell me what is causing this though?

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#7 2005-04-22 03:43:47

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Re: framebuffer

hmmm can you try setting the vga value to normal... or the minimum... whatever it is (or vga=ask)?

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#8 2005-04-22 03:51:09

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Re: framebuffer

You just take out the vga= parameter, which disables framebuffer. The logo is compiled into the kernel, it's just a replacement of the Tux logo that's in the usual kernel.           

I hate to say this, but it's user error. You're not doing something right.


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#9 2005-04-22 03:57:54

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Re: framebuffer

all i have done is a pacman -Syu, nothing else, i haven't changed any config files

this is my /boot/grub/menu.lst kernel line

kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/discs/disc0/part3 ro

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#10 2005-04-22 04:09:18

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Re: framebuffer

Try adding a vga=7XX (where XX is the number you want, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst for the numbers) line and maybe it will work.

Also, please please please read the wiki instead of asking repeat questions.


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#11 2005-04-22 04:20:02

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Re: framebuffer

i added vga=773 and now the framebuffering starts sooner, so obviously something else was causing it to start before, so i think this question is pretty worthy of the forums.

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#12 2005-04-22 04:26:52

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Re: framebuffer

shadowhand wrote:

Try adding a vga=7XX (where XX is the number you want, look in /boot/grub/menu.lst for the numbers) line and maybe it will work.

Also, please please please read the wiki instead of asking repeat questions.

I think this may be something different - Stinky is having the same problem.... hmmm

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#13 2005-04-22 04:29:03

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Re: framebuffer

Fine, I'm going to test your theory. I'll go do some tests and see if framebuffer starts at all without the vga line. I'm a bit critical here, as you can tell.


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#14 2005-04-22 04:38:13

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Re: framebuffer

shadowhand wrote:

Fine, I'm going to test your theory. I'll go do some tests and see if framebuffer starts at all without the vga line. I'm a bit critical here, as you can tell.

I haven't noticed it - but it may be a hardware thing....

what video cards / drivers do you guys use? what kernels? what boot loaders? any odd settings?

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#15 2005-04-22 04:41:59

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Re: framebuffer

Here we go. Here's my "extensive testing".

The standard Arch kernel from menu.lst:

title  Arch Linux Default
root   (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/hda2 ro devfs=nomount

Results: booted, no framebuffer, no Arch logo in the upper left
Added vga=791 (1280x1024 fb), rebooted, Arch logo is in the corner, framebuffer is working.

I'm using Grub with a NVIDIA FX5200 (nvidia driver). Stock kernel, and as you can see, competely standard settings.

Conclusion: either this is a hardware issue, or you people aren't looking at your config files.


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#16 2005-04-22 06:55:55

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Re: framebuffer

I have same issue on i810 card (actually I have a lot of issues with this comuter)
It enters into framebuffer without vga=XXX. Ctrl+Alt+F[1..6] ... bad chars.

I also have a lot of lockups with 2.6.11.3, 2.6.11.7, 2.6.x.mm kernels.

Now running 2.4.30...kind of ok, but still waiting for 2.6.12...maybe those things will be fixed.

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#17 2005-04-22 11:38:05

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Re: framebuffer

Ok.  Here's the relevant portion of menu.lst...

# (0) Arch Linux
title  Arch Linux  [/boot/vmlinuz26]
root   (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/discs/disc0/part1 devfs=nomount hdb=ide-cd hdc=ide-cd ro
# use this if your /boot/vmlinuz is on a different partition
#kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/discs/disc0/part3 ro

without the vga= in there, when it goes to what "acts" like a framebuffer, there is no logo or anything, the text just gets smaller "LIKE" it does when vga= is in menu.lst.  That's when it goes all wonky and I can't read any of the text.
Maybe it is something hardware related, I was just wondering why it didn't show up until kernel 2.6.11.7-ARCH?  It worked fine until then.  I rolled back to 2.6.10 and it works fine.  But I'd rather run the latest Kernel.  So I put up with the unreadable text on bootup and just look at dmesg.  I don't reboot very often anyway.

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#18 2005-04-22 11:40:14

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Re: framebuffer

Hmmm...My video card is an i810 too.......Interesting....

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#19 2005-04-22 13:37:56

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Re: framebuffer

there is deffinately something else which is influencing the boot, and enabling this framebuffer. I'm even getting a little black glitch in the top left hand corner of xfce4 if i dont enable vga from the kernel line in grub  :?, i hope someone can find out what coz its little things like this that gte to me  :cry:  haha  wink

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#20 2005-04-22 17:36:40

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Re: framebuffer

Has anyone with the i810 card tried enabling framebuffer to see if that fixes the issues?


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#21 2005-04-22 19:42:47

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Re: framebuffer

I have not, but can as soon as I get off work.

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#22 2005-04-22 21:49:41

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Re: framebuffer

little things like this are starting to get to me, i reinstalled gnome to try again but this mystery framebuffer is just making the screen black when i startx, so i went back to xfce4 to now find that sometimes xfdesktop wont load itself i have to manually start it  :evil: , makes me want to turn and run back to gentoo lol

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#23 2005-04-22 22:41:48

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Re: framebuffer

do you get anything in the error logs about xfce/gnome when you try to start them?

also try something like "dmesg | grep fb" or "dmesg | grep frame" and see if anything comes up...

did you try setting "vga=normal" are rebooting?

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#24 2005-04-22 23:26:51

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Re: framebuffer

i finally got an okish gnome running big_smile, only a few apps dont work, like system monitor or text editor.

[spencer@localhost ~]$ dmesg | grep fb
CPU: After generic identify, caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00004400 00000000 00000000
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00004400 00000000 00000000
CPU: After all inits, caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000080 00004400 00000000 00000000
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb010, last bus=1
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xe0000000, mapped to 0xd0080000, using 1536k, total 8000k
vesafb: mode is 1024x768x8, linelength=1024, pages=9
vesafb: protected mode interface info at 00ff:44f0
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: Pseudocolor: size=8:8:8:8, shift=0:0:0:0
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
intelfb: Framebuffer driver for Intel(R) 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G chipsets
intelfb: Version 0.9.2
intelfb: Cannot reserve FB region.
 [spencer@localhost ~]$ dmesg | grep frame
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xe0000000, mapped to 0xd0080000, using 1536k, total 8000k
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device

[/code]

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#25 2005-04-23 00:40:22

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Re: framebuffer

My menu.lst is posted above, so I do not have it set to use framebuffer.  But take a look at this...

[tim@localhost ~]$ dmesg | grep frame
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
[tim@localhost ~]$ dmesg | grep fb
I810FB: fb0         : Intel(R) 810E Framebuffer Device v0.9.0
intelfb: Framebuffer driver for Intel(R) 830M/845G/852GM/855GM/865G chipsets
intelfb: Version 0.9.2
[tim@localhost ~]$

Interesting.  Uhhh...I'm at a loss.  Other than re-rolling my kernel to take out framebuffer all together.  Not sure what else that would break though.  lol.  Ohh.  Also, I said above that 2.6.10 worked...That was a Typo.  2.6.9-1 works correctly when i roll back.

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