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#1 2010-09-29 20:10:50

jmak
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Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

Hello,

I did my regular update today that went fine, but after reboot I got a black screen. The bootup starts as regular and goes on for a while but somewhere in the middle it stops and that's all, black screen.

I updated the kernel, xorg, ati and input devices, qt as far as I remember.

Now, I don't know what to do.

Would appreciate if any knowledgeable person could give me ideas what to do next.

Thanks,
jmak

Last edited by jmak (2010-09-29 22:16:35)

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#2 2010-09-29 20:34:22

mickael9
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

Does Ctrl-Alt-F2 work?

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#3 2010-09-29 20:39:35

karol
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

Check if you're running xorg-server 1.9.
To see what packages were updated run 'tail /var/log/pacman.log'

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#4 2010-09-29 20:39:36

jmak
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

mickael9 wrote:

Does Ctrl-Alt-F2 work?

Thanks for the reply,

It doesn't work.

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#5 2010-09-29 20:42:49

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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

So you can't get to console?

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#6 2010-09-29 20:44:20

karol
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

If you're starting X at boot, switch to starting the console first and check the logs /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

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#7 2010-09-29 20:48:53

jmak
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

karol wrote:

Check if you're running xorg-server 1.9.
To see what packages were updated run 'tail /var/log/pacman.log'

I cannot issue the command because the command line is not working. But I can look at it from other partitions. Please let me know in what folder I can find the xorg – server.

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#8 2010-09-29 20:50:03

jmak
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

mickael9 wrote:

So you can't get to console?

No.

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#9 2010-09-29 20:54:50

karol
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

jmak wrote:
karol wrote:

Check if you're running xorg-server 1.9.
To see what packages were updated run 'tail /var/log/pacman.log'

I cannot issue the command because the command line is not working. But I can look at it from other partitions. Please let me know in what folder I can find the xorg – server.

xorg-server is a package, running 'pacman -Q xorg-server' will show the version.
You need to edit /etc/inittab to boot to console instead of starting X. Find those lines and make them look like this:

## Only one of the following two lines can be uncommented!
# Boot to console
id:3:initdefault:
# Boot to X11
#id:5:initdefault:

You can copy /var/log/pacman.log and post the part about your last update to pastebin.

Last edited by karol (2010-09-29 20:56:47)

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#10 2010-09-29 21:13:31

hokasch
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

I did my regular update today that went fine, but after reboot I got a black screen. The bootup starts as regular and goes on for a while but somewhere in the middle it stops and that's all, black screen.

Did you try turning off KMS already?

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#11 2010-09-29 21:15:21

jmak
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

The inittab already looked the same as yours. I didn't have to change anything.

This is the pacman.log update:

[2010-09-29 15:28] ==> SUCCESS
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded kernel26 (2.6.35.6-1 -> 2.6.35.7-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] installed glproto (1.4.12-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded mesa (7.8.2-1 -> 7.8.2-3)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded nss (3.12.7-1 -> 3.12.8-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded qt (4.6.3-1 -> 4.7.0-2)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.4.0-2 -> 2.5.0-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xf86-input-keyboard (1.4.0-2 -> 1.4.0-3)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xf86-input-mouse (1.5.0-2 -> 1.6.0-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xf86-video-ati (6.13.1-1 -> 6.13.2-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xf86-video-vesa (2.3.0-2 -> 2.3.0-3)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xkeyboard-config (1.8-1 -> 1.9-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] installed xorg-server-common (1.9.0-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xorg-server (1.8.1.902-1 -> 1.9.0-1)
[2010-09-29 15:28] upgraded xterm (261-1 -> 262-1)
[2010-09-29 15:29] upgraded xulrunner (1.9.2.10-1 -> 1.9.2.10-2)

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#12 2010-09-29 21:22:42

jmak
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

hokasch wrote:

I did my regular update today that went fine, but after reboot I got a black screen. The bootup starts as regular and goes on for a while but somewhere in the middle it stops and that's all, black screen.

Did you try turning off KMS already?

I didn't do anything like that.

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#13 2010-09-29 21:25:27

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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

You can downgrade all xorg-related apps to see if it helps.
I'm sorry, but I know nothing about ATI-related issues, but: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 69#p832469

Last edited by karol (2010-09-29 21:26:44)

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#14 2010-09-29 21:40:42

hokasch
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

Did you try turning off KMS already?

I didn't do anything like that.

Sorry, I meant you could try turning of Kernel Mode Setting, as the symptoms described sound a lot like issues with KMS (altough I don't know why it would happen with this particular update, but could be introduced by kernel/ati update)
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI … ooting_KMS

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#15 2010-09-29 22:16:04

jmak
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Re: Today update broke the system[SOLVED]

hokasch wrote:

Did you try turning off KMS already?

I didn't do anything like that.

Sorry, I meant you could try turning of Kernel Mode Setting, as the symptoms described sound a lot like issues with KMS (altough I don't know why it would happen with this particular update, but could be introduced by kernel/ati update)
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI … ooting_KMS

Thanks a lot for the advise, turning off the KMS solved the problem.

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