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#1 2010-10-04 10:08:26

Thor@Flanders
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[SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

Hi,

Just had a worrying experience: Arch blacks the screen, kills everything in sight and re-opens with the login.

Does it do that sometimes? What just happened? Anyone had the same?

Thor

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#2 2010-10-04 10:12:42

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

1. Change your title to something specific (preferably without an exclamation mark): http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/For … ow_to_Post

2. Check your logs for clues (I'd start with xorg)


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#3 2010-10-04 10:19:33

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

Hi,

Sorry about the title - changed it, anfter my own panic attack...

The logs in /var/log/xorg.0.log do not show any errors...
Over-heating PC ... can that crash teh X?

Thor

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#4 2010-10-04 10:49:39

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

Hi,

I just did a full sys-update (a little under 160 packages needed to be upgrades - just about a week after the last upgrade, weird?)
Let's give my PC the benefit of the doubt - but this could be educational, though...

If this does not repro itself within a few days, I'll close the thread...

Wellness

Thor

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#5 2010-10-04 11:02:25

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

He just did it again, I tried out orca - ran tru the setup then ... black screen and a creal restart.
What logs to I consult?

Thor

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#6 2010-10-04 11:06:49

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

xorg is dying for some reason.

since you are not suffering kernel panics, we will rule hardware issues out.

its likely your display driver. what gpu do you have?

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#7 2010-10-04 11:11:27

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

Gdm or kdm by chance? How are you starting it?

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#8 2010-10-04 11:54:14

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

Hi,

It's an intel...excerpts from lshw:

memory - notice the clock speeds, could this be a problem?

     *-memory:0
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 24
          slot: System board or motherboard
          capacity: 2GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 266 MHz (3.8 ns)
             product: 16VDDT6464AG-265C4
             vendor: JEDEC ID:2C FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
             physical id: 0
             serial: 23D53269
             slot: DIMM1
             size: 512MiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 266MHz (3.8ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 400 MHz (2.5 ns)
             product: K
             vendor: JEDEC ID:7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00
             physical id: 1
             serial: 47EB326D
             slot: DIMM2
             size: 1GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 400MHz (2.5ns)

EDIT : since kernel panics only occur at boot - the memory issue can indeed be ruled out...tnx, eldragon

Display

             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f7ffffff memory:f8400000-f847ffff ioport:14e0(size=8)

And this, from the "device" section fron xorg.conf

    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "intel"
    VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
    BoardName   "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller"
    BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"

As a newbie (yes, I confess, after two years, I still learn....) I think X goes into "unstable" memory and "trips over its shoe laces" somehow, but then... I AM an newbie

Thanks for looking at the "evidence"...

Thor

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#9 2010-10-04 11:56:03

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

BYW, I am happy to learn it's not the kernel...or the hardware, otherwise the system does work like a charm...hate to have to hop to annother distro, where Arch does its magick - and so much more...

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#10 2010-10-04 11:57:21

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

I start the system in init 5 - graphically logging in...I hope that answers your question falconindy...

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#11 2010-10-04 12:01:53

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

It's a little ironic that I posted the How To Post link in the first reply to this thread and yet you don't seem to have read the Forum Etiquette. Please learn to use the 'Edit' button rather than bumping your thread and enclose code in the correct tags...


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#12 2010-10-04 12:06:41

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

ehrm...an newbie-mistake due to (misplaced?) tunnelvision.

My sincere apologies to you and the community. I have read and (hopefully) understood the ruling etiquette...

Thor

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#13 2010-10-08 11:34:41

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Re: [SOLVED]X stopped and did a clean restart - why did it do that?

Hi,

Possibly solved : I had the Gnome configured with a belgian-Extended keyboard. It is a PS2 keyboard hooked to the PC with a PS2-to-USB converter. The lights on the thing kept blinking every once in a while. Since I set it up with a standard belgian keyboard, it stopped doing that.
I guess the "extended" keyboard gave a quick-shutdown signal to the Gnome...

Well, it is a wild guess, so I'll tag this thread as solved...

Thor
(did not want to bump - but put the sollution in plain view: as last entry)

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