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#1 2005-04-06 20:11:32

Snowman
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Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

I just noticed that there is a new group: forum advisers.  Out of curiosity, I am wondering what's the difference between forum advisers and moderators.  Can they do admin stuff like loking, moving topics, etc. ?  Or are they  just there to remind users about forum etiquette?

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#2 2005-04-06 20:42:39

phrakture
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

I'm just eyecandy - cactus thinks I'm pretty
: oops :

seriously though, I guess I can lock topics and things like that... but I think the way rasat put it was the best explaination:
to most people, moderator == cop... the authorities...  someone sees a "forum advisor" in a different light... it kinda says "i'm here to help"

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#3 2005-04-06 20:46:55

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

forum adviser: reason to have a swollen head tongue

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#4 2005-04-06 21:35:07

Snowman
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

phrakture wrote:

seriously though, I guess I can lock topics and things like that... but I think the way rasat put it was the best explaination:
to most people, moderator == cop... the authorities...  someone sees a "forum advisor" in a different light... it kinda says "i'm here to help"

I see. smile  I got confused by the "Forum".   Forum advisers are not there to maintain the forum  but to offer  advice/help  to users posting questions on the forum.   If  they can't lock topics,  they can always pm the moderators.

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#5 2005-04-07 03:16:41

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

Forum Advisers have mod privilege (lock, move, etc.). They may not use it as frequently as mods do. They have experience in forum and play an important role in the moderation discussion forum.

The increase of number of moderators go along with number of users. In the eye of new users, it doesn't look nice when big number of "Moderators" (police) stay around. But Forum Advisers will be liked/loved. This will make the Forum Advisers, after awhile, automatically to become advisers of Arch Forum. Its nice thing for the oldtimers to become. wink

There is also another factor. To get more moderators is not easy task when asking users to take a duty as "moderator". Advisers will be easier to get as long as they have the experience and willing to help.

EDIT
Old-timers should not feel Forum Advisers will "take" their job. For them to get some attention. I will ask the modration team to give post rank of 500 or 1000 posts as Old-timer. The big post number and title will do. smile

EDIT
Old-timer = 700 posts.

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#6 2005-04-09 01:03:15

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

Hmmmm.... I've been here quite a while but only have an odd 300 posts because I don't post often.


The suggestion box only accepts patches.

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#7 2005-04-09 03:55:37

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

neotuli wrote:

Hmmmm.... I've been here quite a while but only have an odd 300 posts because I don't post often.

The mods are discussing about this question. There are users been with Arch for long, may not post freguently but are active.

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#8 2005-04-09 08:58:55

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

rasat wrote:

Old-timer = 700 posts.

Under that definition, Judd wouldn't be classed as an old timer! (At time of posting apeiro = 633 posts)

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#9 2005-04-24 18:44:49

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

Hello,

Yes, counting posts may not be the more accurate measure but, i think at least filters most of the cases and they could always check special cases like Neotuli (or even Judd) more easily this way...

I consider my self an Old Timer (tm) wink... even thought the last months i have been quite iddle but i dont need a tittle saying so for me to know that.

I think its a good idea, when i was reading this other post:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=11412
Where dp commented about the changes on the forum (with whom i couldnt agree more), then after reading several posts/replies i thought in some kind of "Trusted Forum User" i guess thats what "Forum Adiviser" kind of means. And if we have TURs why not have TFUs smile


Anyway, im going back at what i was doing


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#10 2005-05-18 21:21:35

thegnu
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

rasat wrote:

But Forum Advisers will be liked/loved.

Is that why I like/love phrakture?  :shock:


fffft!

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#11 2005-05-18 21:26:04

phrakture
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

thegnu wrote:
rasat wrote:

But Forum Advisers will be liked/loved.

Is that why I like/love phrakture?  :shock:

Will you accept this rose?

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#12 2005-05-19 03:53:59

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

Damn it, dont turn the thread in a meetup service!

ps  wink


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#13 2005-05-19 05:20:34

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

Tall, handsome, atheletic, poet seeks enormously busted blond female....

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#14 2005-05-19 06:27:12

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

busted huh?...

I can see the personals ad now:

Computer literate dibble seeks "fixer upper" woman. I don't care if she is broken, as I like to tinker and fix things until they are "just the way I like it".
Turn ons: Gensplash, kernel recompiles. Turn offs: Forums.

lol


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"tacos" -- Cactus' Law
"t̥͍͎̪̪͗a̴̻̩͈͚ͨc̠o̩̙͈ͫͅs͙͎̙͊ ͔͇̫̜t͎̳̀a̜̞̗ͩc̗͍͚o̲̯̿s̖̣̤̙͌ ̖̜̈ț̰̫͓ạ̪͖̳c̲͎͕̰̯̃̈o͉ͅs̪ͪ ̜̻̖̜͕" -- -̖͚̫̙̓-̺̠͇ͤ̃ ̜̪̜ͯZ͔̗̭̞ͪA̝͈̙͖̩L͉̠̺͓G̙̞̦͖O̳̗͍

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#15 2005-05-19 06:44:33

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

LOL - thanks, cactus, I REALLY appreciate that one lol

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#16 2005-05-19 07:47:03

phrakture
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

dibblethewrecker wrote:

Tall, handsome, atheletic, poet seeks enormously busted blond female....

lol, around here "busted" is just beyond "fugly" - "oh my god, that chick is busted"

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#17 2005-05-19 20:50:41

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

I dont know whats fugly, but i thought busted meant he/she was caught doing something "bad".

anyway, acording to my firefox popup tranlator, its "reventado" which is similar to "blown up"... well... i better dont get in to that smile

dictionary.com wrote:

bust2   Audio pronunciation of "busted" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (bst)
v. bust·ed, bust·ing, busts
v. tr.

   1. Slang.
         1. To smash or break, especially forcefully: "Mr. Luger worked it with a rake, busting up the big clods, making a flat brown table" (Garrison Keillor).
         2. To render inoperable or unusable: busted the vending machine by putting in foreign coins.
   2. To cause to come to an end; break up: an attempt to bust the union.
   3. To break or tame (a horse).
   4. To cause to become bankrupt or short of money: "Too often, the promise of a high-tech design leads to a weapon that busts the budget" (Business Week).
   5. Slang. To reduce in rank. See Synonyms at demote.
   6. To hit; punch.
   7. Slang.
         1. To place under arrest.
         2. To make a police raid on.

[....]

Hey! look there, i wasnt that far away!


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#18 2005-05-19 23:22:27

phrakture
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

sud_crow wrote:

I dont know whats fugly, but i thought busted meant he/she was caught doing something "bad".

that's correct... but it also means "not working" - "my car is busted"... and because of that definition, people around here have used it to define people.... it's kinda funny...

(btw, fugly is "f***ing ugly")

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#19 2005-05-19 23:41:14

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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

Ooh, pretty stars!

Seriously, I was very tempted to edit your post and fix it up. Give one good reason to not spell it out.

What's offensive about 'uck' anyway ;-)

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#20 2005-05-20 01:53:46

phrakture
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Re: Difference between forum advisers and moderators?

i3839 wrote:

Ooh, pretty stars!

Seriously, I was very tempted to edit your post and fix it up. Give one good reason to not spell it out.

What's offensive about 'uck' anyway ;-)

just trying to be PC

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