Login Manager and running .xinitrc commands

tmadhavan · 2005-04-27 17:57:58

Evenin' geezers,

Just a quick one - I'm gonna do a bit more digging around, probably find something, but:

If I want to run, say, Enlightenment, I can stick it in .xinitrc. Then, if I want to run adesklets with it, I can stick that in .xinitrc as well. But, if I want to run some other environments as well, and I use a login manager, how can I get adesklets to load? It doesn't run the .xinitrc script anymore.

So,

a) is there a place to put login scripts that start adesklets regardless off what environment I use?
b) if not, is there somewhere to make the login manager call adesklets somehow?

I'm sure it can't be too complicated, but I can't get it quite right.

Cheers,
Thom

phrakture · 2005-04-27 18:16:48

There's actually no common "startup file":

startx uses ~/.xinitrc
xdm uses ~/.xsession
kdm/gdm use something I do not know

each WM also has it's own startup file (~/.fluxbox/startup, ~/.wmii/rc, etc)

so... the real answer is: no - if you want a common way to do it, setup each WM you use to run it on startup, otherwise use xdm, or startx...

shadowhand · 2005-04-27 19:48:19

Dirty hack...

ln -s .xinitrc .xsession

I've been using this since I first started using Openbox with GDM.

phrakture · 2005-04-27 20:35:38

shadowhand wrote:

Dirty hack...
ln -s .xinitrc .xsession
I've been using this since I first started using Openbox with GDM.

I used to do the same with xdm... so gdm uses ~/.xsession as well?

that leaves kdm...

Snowman · 2005-04-28 00:24:02

For kdm, it's /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xsession

shadowhand · 2005-04-28 01:21:34

phrakture wrote:

I used to do the same with xdm... so gdm uses ~/.xsession as well?

Yes, GDM uses .xsession.

tmadhavan · 2005-04-28 10:41:20

Hang on tho - if I'm running one script, how does the login manager differentiate between what to run when I select different environments?

E.g. my .xinitrc contains 'adesklets & exec enlightenment', right? What if I change my session to KDE - will it still run the .xinitrc that's going to load enlightenment?

To be honest, I hardly ever change sessions anymore, but just so I know.

S, as it stands, I'd need to add

adesklets &
exec enlightenment

to /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/Xsession (if I'm using kdm) and that should hopefully work?

I'm still a littel confused, tho I've got the bit about not being able to do it easily

phrakture · 2005-04-28 15:07:00

Personally, I would just set it up with the window manager instead of the display manager - it seems more concise... KDE has a "startup" file somewhere... I'm sure enlightenment does too...

Snowman · 2005-04-28 16:47:36

If you use kdm, you don't need to have
exec enlightenment
in .xinitrc. At the login screen, there is a menu that let you choose wich WM you want to start. You can keep adesklets in .xinitrc.

tmadhavan · 2005-04-28 20:28:34

Ah right I see.

Yeah I realise there is a menu in KDM, that's my point I was wondering what script it ran, since it doesn't run .xinitrc... or so I thought. I'll try sticking adesklets in there anyway.

I suppose I could always do away with the login manager altogether, but other people somtimes use the machine and it's easier to just have the usernames there to be clicked...

Snowman · 2005-04-29 01:14:58

From KDE FAQ:

How do I run a program at KDE startup?
There are many ways to do that. If what you want to do is to run some scripts that would set some environment variables (for example, to start gpg-agent, ssh-agent and others), you can put these scripts into $KDEHOME/env/ and make sure their names end in .sh. $KDEHOME is usually a folder named .kde (note the period at the beginning) in your home folder. If you want scripts to be executed for all KDE users, you can put them under $KDEDIR/env/, where $KDEDIR is the prefix KDE was installed to (you can find this out using the command kde-config --prefix).
If you wish to start a program after KDE has started, you may want to use the Autostart folder. To add entries to the Autostart folder:
1. Open Konqueror.
2. Select Go->Autostart from the menubar.
3. Right-click in the window view area and select Create New->File->Link to Application
4. Click on the Application tab in the window that appears and enter the name of the command to run in the Command text box.

tmadhavan · 2005-04-29 07:21:02

I'm using Enlightenment

pwe · 2005-05-08 16:19:20

hey!
who knows how i can run xfce4 with xdm ?

-Im using ~/.xsession file
-in inittab & rc.conf is everything OK
-on Gentoo xfce4&xdm worrks fine (exec xfce4-session)

and what i need do in Arch ? Fluxbox is working fine (exec fluxbox)! i dont have any idea
normaly im used to use startx

thanks!

shadowhand · 2005-05-12 20:13:11

Yeah, the command is "startxfce4" not "xfce4-session".

pwe · 2005-05-14 00:40:14

ok thanks i try it later, now i dont have much time.

startx -> xfce4-session
gentoo .xsession -> xfce4-session

T-Dawg · 2005-05-14 01:05:23

Where *in the hell* did you find that avatar?

rasat · 2005-05-14 03:59:29

phrakture wrote:

There's actually no common "startup file":
startx uses ~/.xinitrc
xdm uses ~/.xsession
kdm/gdm use something I do not know
each WM also has it's own startup file (~/.fluxbox/startup, ~/.wmii/rc, etc)

As a quick thought to avoid using a WM, how about having a bash script asking to select what startup file to use?

pwe · 2005-05-14 21:48:32

Penguin wrote:

Where *in the hell* did you find that avatar?

"in the hell or deeper" really - i forgot. do you like it ?

about XDM -> it dosnt work! :cry:
exec startxfce4
exec xfce4-session

i cant understand this, sorry. somebody can paste me .xsession here ?

thanks

T-Dawg · 2005-05-14 22:09:11

pwe wrote:

Penguin wrote:
Where *in the hell* did you find that avatar?
"in the hell or deeper" really - i forgot. do you like it ?

Yeah, Its pretty unique. Slow blinking eyes on a bloody pulp looking straight at me while I'm trying to read a post...I can't help but to laugh everytime I see it

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