Discussion: the ati/radeon open source drivers & radeon repository

handy · 2010-11-06 06:17:50

hdhoang wrote:

I put it in /etc/rc.local, which is run at each boot.

That it is.

Though I wonder whether it is the "correct" place to put it or not?

I'd be interested to hear from someone who knows, as I certainly don't.

Last edited by handy (2010-11-06 06:18:33)

xheyther · 2010-11-06 11:34:23

I'd tried to put the command into /etc/profile.d/radeon.sh but its ran only when I log with the root user (or enter su - in the console). So I put it into rc.local and I'll see...

edit : With dynpm my card was still too nosy, i use :
echo profile > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

in rc.local. With dynpm I think the card never goes under the middle profile.

Last edited by xheyther (2010-11-06 11:40:09)

ijanos · 2010-11-06 11:50:41

xheyther wrote:

I'd tried to put the command into /etc/profile.d/radeon.sh but its ran only when I log with the root user (or enter su - in the console). So I put it into rc.local and I'll see...
edit : With dynpm my card was still too nosy, i use :
echo profile > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_method
echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
in rc.local. With dynpm I think the card never goes under the middle profile.

According to the radeonfeature page, dynpm is more agressive but flickers, also low can cause glitches with some cards so the auto profile will use mid as the lowest freq when the screen is on and low if it is turned off.

ijanos · 2010-11-06 11:51:53

handy wrote:

hdhoang wrote:
I put it in /etc/rc.local, which is run at each boot.
That it is.
Though I wonder whether it is the "correct" place to put it or not?
I'd be interested to hear from someone who knows, as I certainly don't.

It is the correct place for now. Maybe there will be a place to set a default in the future.

handy · 2010-11-06 12:22:21

ijanos wrote:

handy wrote:
hdhoang wrote:
I put it in /etc/rc.local, which is run at each boot.
That it is.
Though I wonder whether it is the "correct" place to put it or not?
I'd be interested to hear from someone who knows, as I certainly don't.
It is the correct place for now. Maybe there will be a place to set a default in the future.

Thanks for that ijanos.

I just don't know what I don't know...

Osiris · 2010-11-06 13:57:10

Hello,

I've an Radeon 5770 (Evergreen) and installed the xf86-video-ati drivers from the default repository, added the radeon module to the MODULE array and KMS seems to work fine. My user is also in the video group, yet I have:

[florian@horus ~]$ glxinfo | grep -i opengl
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.8.3
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:

Desktop effects don't in KDE don't work, of course.
In Xorg.0.log I've found no error message, it seems that the radeon module works just fine.

EDIT: Ok, found something in the log

[root@horus log]# grep DRI Xorg.0.log
[     9.985] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[     9.985] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[    10.259] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
[    10.259] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[    10.309] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
[root@horus log]# grep Direct Xorg.0.log
[    10.254] (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled

Is my card still too new and the current version of the driver does not support it yet? Any packages I may have forgotten to install? Or do I need the kernel26-drm-radeon-testing? Though the first posting tells me "Everything needed for 3d acceleration is in the the stable repos."

Thanks,

Florian

Last edited by Osiris (2010-11-06 14:04:06)

kinu · 2010-11-06 14:59:49

About power saving too:

I'm getting 8-10+ celsius degrees than when using catalyst or in windows. It's strange, because I'm using low power profile and getting this

default engine clock: 680000 kHz
current engine clock: 109680 kHz
default memory clock: 800000 kHz
current memory clock: 249750 kHz
voltage: 950 mV
PCIE lanes: 16

Maybe the voltage setting? Is there a way to low it?

Thank you in advance,

kInU

Edit: The battery life is what really matters for me, because it lasts a 30%+ with the catalyst driver.

Last edited by kinu (2010-11-06 15:06:35)

ijanos · 2010-11-06 15:08:48

kinu wrote:

About power saving too:
I'm getting 8-10+ celsius degrees than when using catalyst or in windows. It's strange, because I'm using low power profile and getting this

I think it cannot do better currently. I've opened a bugreport 2 weeks ago about this, add yourself to the CC list, to get notified when they reply.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31000

xheyther · 2010-11-06 18:15:45

Osiris wrote:

Is my card still too new and the current version of the driver does not support it yet? Any packages I may have forgotten to install? Or do I need the kernel26-drm-radeon-testing? Though the first posting tells me "Everything needed for 3d acceleration is in the the stable repos."

I believe that you'll need mesa 7.9 (and maybe some other package) from testing to get 3D with evergreen. Still, be aware that their are serious issues with radeon and KWin (especially with the blur effect).

kinu · 2010-11-06 22:34:58

ijanos wrote:

I think it cannot do better currently. I've opened a bugreport 2 weeks ago about this, add yourself to the CC list, to get notified when they reply.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31000

Done. Thank you.

Cdh · 2010-11-07 01:21:41

I have used several new git versions of mesa-full, xf86-video-ati, etc. with x86_64 on my HD4670 and lib32-stuff seems to be much slower.

I had used xf86-video-ati some time ago on my 32-bit system and I remember warcraft3 running very smoothly. But when I run it now with lib32-mesa-full the performance is playable, but it definitely is not as good as it should be. It feels laggy, the mouse pointer doesn't move smoothly and for example the snowflakes on the menu screen don't move smoothly either.
I have also tried r600g with lib32-mesa-full-gallium which I created based on lib32-mesa-full and mesa-full-gallium and it is actually better, but still not "perfect" as I remember it to be.

So I wondered where the problem is: Is it because of lib32- stuff? Or is it because of problems with mesa 7.8 and 7.9 (tried both...). Does anyone have similar issues?

hoschi · 2010-11-07 19:59:36

TemplarGR wrote:

Opensource would be dead if all project leaders were unreliable and didn't give a damn about their users.

Your right.
And wrong.

Reliability is one of the most important parts of life. But you don't know what happend!
His girlfriend/wife gets pregnant? He was involved in a car crash? His ISP-Service was broken.
Maybe he simply planned a one-week-holiday and thought everything was alright. Nothing special. But some trainee shut down his server accidentally.

He is ONE person. Not a GNU-Project or a Distro.

Osiris · 2010-11-08 20:05:13

xheyther wrote:

Osiris wrote:
Is my card still too new and the current version of the driver does not support it yet? Any packages I may have forgotten to install? Or do I need the kernel26-drm-radeon-testing? Though the first posting tells me "Everything needed for 3d acceleration is in the the stable repos."
I believe that you'll need mesa 7.9 (and maybe some other package) from testing to get 3D with evergreen. Still, be aware that their are serious issues with radeon and KWin (especially with the blur effect).

Anyone knows if there a major changes regarding that with the upcoming 2.6.36 kernel release to archlinux? (don't dare to ask for a anticipated release date...)

hoschi · 2010-11-10 12:07:39

OpenGL-Support for Evergreen is in vanilla-kernel since 2.6.35, so I think not.

xheyther · 2010-11-11 11:38:11

I though that Tiling support was added for R6xx-8xx but looking more carrefully it look like it only on r6xx-r7xx. (H-online claims it's for r6xx-8xx but Deucher's mail says r6xx-7xx).

Power magement was improved though.

skazhy · 2010-11-11 22:18:58

Hi!

I am using ATI Radeon Mobility HD 530v graphics card (itegrated in laptop). Is it possible to get 3D acceleration for this card? If so, which should I choose Catalyst or the open source driver?

handy · 2010-11-12 01:15:51

skazhy wrote:

Hi!
I am using ATI Radeon Mobility HD 530v graphics card (itegrated in laptop). Is it possible to get 3D acceleration for this card? If so, which should I choose Catalyst or the open source driver?

The FOSS Radeon drivers will work:

http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

skazhy · 2010-11-12 10:28:14

handy wrote:

skazhy wrote:
Hi!
I am using ATI Radeon Mobility HD 530v graphics card (itegrated in laptop). Is it possible to get 3D acceleration for this card? If so, which should I choose Catalyst or the open source driver?
The FOSS Radeon drivers will work:
http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

The feature list looks fine, but will I be able to play e.g. OpenArena on it?

handy · 2010-11-12 11:55:25

skazhy wrote:

handy wrote:
skazhy wrote:
Hi!
I am using ATI Radeon Mobility HD 530v graphics card (itegrated in laptop). Is it possible to get 3D acceleration for this card? If so, which should I choose Catalyst or the open source driver?
The FOSS Radeon drivers will work:
http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

The feature list looks fine, but will I be able to play e.g. OpenArena on it?

Very likely.

I've read that the Quake engined games are somewhat renowned for their comparative, GPU frugality.

My HD2600Pro, played it incredibly well (the speed blew me away), when I used the Phoronix test suite, (which incorporates a number of games) on my system.

Perhaps someone else here has experience with your particular GPU & that game?

Last edited by handy (2010-11-12 11:55:53)

skazhy · 2010-11-12 17:16:39

handy wrote:

skazhy wrote:
handy wrote:
The FOSS Radeon drivers will work:
http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

The feature list looks fine, but will I be able to play e.g. OpenArena on it?
Very likely.
I've read that the Quake engined games are somewhat renowned for their comparative, GPU frugality.
My HD2600Pro, played it incredibly well (the speed blew me away), when I used the Phoronix test suite, (which incorporates a number of games) on my system.
Perhaps someone else here has experience with your particular GPU & that game?

I did a fresh install today, followed instructions on wiki, and tried some games (Xmoto and Hedgewars), they are really lagging. I checked the "my card is painfully slow" section in the wiki article but there were no errors in dmesg output. There were no mentions about GPU acceleration tho in the dmesg. What's wrong?

My card has no Catalyst driver (yet?) so running xf86 is the only option

handy · 2010-11-15 01:30:39

This may have been posted in the past & I've forgotten?
Anyway I've just come across it myself & I'll post it in the hope that it may do someone some good here:

http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview … TMP=Single

Last edited by handy (2010-11-15 01:31:14)

handy · 2010-11-17 00:03:09

There is a wonderful new patch that whilst not directly involved with our GPU driver stack, it will certainly have an effect on our desktop & video performance, for some more than others:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … 2637_video

I certainly look forward to this patch being incorporated into our kernel26-drm-radeon-testing kernel, for starters.

It looks like it won't come into mainstream until Linux 2.6.38 kernel as the kernel freeze is on for 2.6.37.

[edit:] I've done a lot of reading on this stuff, understood a little of it. It seems I posted here inappropriately really. Sorry about that.

For anyone interested in this inappropriate for this thread topic, this is a good shortcut, I've been using it for a brief amount of time with no problems, or noticeable change (as yet) in performance:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/11/16/413

Last edited by handy (2010-11-19 10:56:20)

Pik · 2010-11-17 18:44:42

Hi,

I've got a little problem running 3D games (32 bit) with wine.
I got the error:

 Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: Cannot open the shared object: file or directory not found
err:wgl:has_opengl OpenGL support is disabled.

Well, libGL.so.1 exists in /opt/lib32/usr/lib/. Does anyone know, where the game is looking for it? lib32-libdrm-git and lib32-mesa-full is installed.

handy · 2010-11-18 02:03:26

Can you post the output from the following command please?

glxinfo |grep -i opengl

Pik · 2010-11-18 07:33:01

Sure:

OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on RS780
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:

3D out of wine is working.

Arch Linux

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