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#1 2010-11-25 03:52:35

softtower
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So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

Hey guys, just wanted to ask if anyone knows the status on Firefox pacman package. Arguably, Firefox is one of the most important applications out there, yet Arch version of it, just like OpenOffice, comes with a built-in Cairo/Freetype which display broken, poorly rendered fonts from the 80s. I am a bit sick of Opera here, does anyone know when we get our browser back?

Thanks.

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#2 2010-11-25 03:54:50

Allan
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

When the firefox devs fix it to be able to use newer cairo versions without breaking stuff.

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#3 2010-11-25 04:04:01

frabjous
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

softtower wrote:

Hey guys, just wanted to ask if anyone knows the status on Firefox pacman package. Arguably, Firefox is one of the most important applications out there, yet Arch version of it, just like OpenOffice, comes with a built-in Cairo/Freetype which display broken, poorly rendered fonts from the 80s. I am a bit sick of Opera here, does anyone know when we get our browser back?

Have you tried installing either xulrunner-system-cairo or firefox-pgo from AUR?

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#4 2010-11-25 22:15:43

stqn
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

My Firefox displays fonts just fine... I haven't enabled "Allow pages to set their own fonts" though.

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#5 2010-11-26 17:13:54

Gossamer
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

Is the new Firefox 4 beta in AUR or the repositories?

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#6 2010-11-26 17:16:56

markbabc
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

Gossamer wrote:

Is the new Firefox 4 beta in AUR or the repositories?

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=102351

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#7 2010-11-26 17:17:17

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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

There are several builds for fx4 on aur, I suggest the firefox-pgo-beta one.

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#8 2010-11-26 17:20:18

wonder
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

softtower wrote:

Hey guys, just wanted to ask if anyone knows the status on Firefox pacman package. Arguably, Firefox is one of the most important applications out there, yet Arch version of it, just like OpenOffice, comes with a built-in Cairo/Freetype which display broken, poorly rendered fonts from the 80s. I am a bit sick of Opera here, does anyone know when we get our browser back?

Thanks.

did you even investigated why was that before saying that our packages are broken?!?! is fairly simple to see, just open the mozconfig and there is a comment. along with that i give an upstream link too: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597174

NEVER EVER say that i have broken packages. FIrefox is broken if i enable system cairo support.

Like a side note, i could say that your font rendering is broken. My fonts are rendered correctly and uniform across all applications using stock packages.

Last edited by wonder (2010-11-26 17:22:56)


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#9 2010-11-26 19:53:11

Leonid.I
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

wonder wrote:
softtower wrote:

... which display broken, poorly rendered fonts from the 80s...

Like a side note, i could say that your font rendering is broken. My fonts are rendered correctly and uniform across all applications using stock packages.

Yeah, I would like to know what the problem exactly is. For instance, my ff has no font issues, so what do I have to do to break the fonts?


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#10 2010-11-26 19:56:25

thestinger
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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: 2010-01-23
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

Leonid.I wrote:
wonder wrote:
softtower wrote:

... which display broken, poorly rendered fonts from the 80s...

Like a side note, i could say that your font rendering is broken. My fonts are rendered correctly and uniform across all applications using stock packages.

Yeah, I would like to know what the problem exactly is. For instance, my ff has no font issues, so what do I have to do to break the fonts?

Lots of people use stuff like freetype2-infinality with the infinality .fonts.conf, and firefox fonts will look horrible. It's not "broken" though, it's expected behavior and it's easy enough to recompile it.

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#11 2010-11-26 19:56:58

wonder
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

Leonid.I wrote:
wonder wrote:
softtower wrote:

... which display broken, poorly rendered fonts from the 80s...

Like a side note, i could say that your font rendering is broken. My fonts are rendered correctly and uniform across all applications using stock packages.

Yeah, I would like to know what the problem exactly is. For instance, my ff has no font issues, so what do I have to do to break the fonts?

use some patches for cairo/freetype/fonconfig, like -ubuntu, -infinity,-cleartype


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#12 2010-11-26 20:00:33

thestinger
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

I added a warning to the font configuration page a few days ago, so hopefully people stop having this problem.

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#13 2010-11-26 20:02:59

frabjous
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Registered: 2010-07-13
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

wonder wrote:

use some patches for cairo/freetype/fonconfig, like -ubuntu, -infinity,-cleartype

The entire point of this thread is that Firefox does not respect those packages even if they're installed. What's what the OP considers broken about it.

I have to agree that this makes font rendering in the stock arch Firefox package just incredibly unbearably awful. I agree that this by itself doesn't mean it's "broken", however, and there are workarounds, such as installing one of the alternative firefox or xulrunner packages mentioned above.

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#14 2010-11-29 13:28:04

broch
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

Mr.Elendig wrote:

There are several builds for fx4 on aur, I suggest the firefox-pgo-beta one.

pgo does not provide any advantages over firefox beta 4.0

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#15 2010-11-29 20:26:34

kishd
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Re: So... Firefox package is still broken. Any updates on that?

The newer infinality patch installed correctly with windows 7 fonts (i know I 'tainted" my linux box hehe) gives really nice font rendering in the stock arch firefox.


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