[SOLVED]glxinfo & glxgears no longer in mesa-7.9-1?

theapodan · 2010-11-27 15:41:04

The mesa-7.9-1 package no longer has glxinfo and glxgears. Have they been split into another package, and if so, which one?

Thanks,

Robert.

Last edited by theapodan (2010-11-27 15:53:06)

wonder · 2010-11-27 15:42:06

mesa-demos

Allan · 2010-11-27 15:42:22

pacman -Ss mesa

It should be obvious.

theapodan · 2010-11-27 15:52:46

Allan wrote:

pacman -Ss mesa
It should be obvious.

What should be obvious? The command you posted outputs a list of 13 packages.

Anyway, thank you,

Robert.

Ultraman · 2010-11-29 09:53:10

theapodan wrote:

Allan wrote:
pacman -Ss mesa
It should be obvious.
What should be obvious? The command you posted outputs a list of 13 packages.
Anyway, thank you,
Robert.

13 isn't such a long list too look through. mesa-demos is in there. What would "glxgears" be, kind-of-program wise?
Pausing for a second, looking at it and thinking about it would have saved you some time.
Allan is merely trying to make you more self-sufficient, which is good for you in the long run.

I wanted to check out glxgears and glxinfo as well after the upgrade. So I did exactly this.

Last edited by Ultraman (2010-11-29 09:55:10)

kilgoretrout · 2010-11-29 16:54:20

It's only obvious if you have some familiarity with other linux distro's packaging. Many include glxgears and glxinfo in a package called "mesa-demos". There is no reason to suspect that glxinfo or glxgears, for that matter, would be in mesa-demos absent this familiarity. In fact, historically, both glxinfo and glxgears were included in a general mesa package. When they were moved to mesa-demos by most distros, the forums were filled with posts asking what happened to glxgears and glxinfo.

ConnorBehan · 2010-12-06 01:12:16

Thirteen mesa related programs might leave one to wonder where they are but all of them except mesa and mesa-demos are chipset specific dri drivers which obviously wouldn't come with glxinfo or glxgears!

Xyem · 2010-12-17 16:16:31

I have to agree, 'mesa-demos' is extremely counter-intuitive, especially for glxinfo!

What does glxinfo do? Dumps glx related information to the console. How is that a demonstration?

Last edited by Xyem (2010-12-17 16:17:02)

thestinger · 2010-12-17 19:10:34

thestinger@arch i ~ % pkgfile glxinfo
extra/mesa-demos

The answer to every "what package is x in" question.

Last edited by thestinger (2010-12-17 19:11:02)

Xyem · 2010-12-17 19:27:31

thestinger wrote:

thestinger@arch i ~ % pkgfile glxinfo
extra/mesa-demos
The answer to every "what package is x in" question.

$ pkgfile glxinfo
bash: pkgfile: command not found

What package is 'pkgfile' in?

EDIT #2: It also doesn't work for AUR packages

EDIT:
Wait.. how come this works?

$ pacman -Ss pkgfile
community/pkgtools 21-2
A collection of scripts for Arch Linux packages

EDIT #3: Apparently, installing 'pkgfile' with pacman works. Confused.

Last edited by Xyem (2010-12-17 19:33:02)

Allan · 2010-12-17 19:37:37

> pacman -Si pkgtools
Repository     : community
Name           : pkgtools
Version        : 21-2
URL            : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=384196
Licenses       : GPL
Groups         : None
Provides       : newpkg  pkgfile

The provides is the clue...

Xyem · 2010-12-17 19:48:11

Allan wrote:

> pacman -Si pkgtools
Repository     : community
Name           : pkgtools
Version        : 21-2
URL            : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=384196
Licenses       : GPL
Groups         : None
Provides       : newpkg  pkgfile

The provides is the clue...

So they could just do the same for all the executables?
E.g.
Name: mesa-demos
Provides: glxinfo glxgears

EDIT: I thought the 'Provides:' field was for when one package could replace another one? Is this a one-off exception to "bootstrap" the process of being able to find what package has what?

Last edited by Xyem (2010-12-17 19:51:19)

ConnorBehan · 2010-12-18 21:12:48

Ok one could abuse the provides field that way but some packages provide files that look like package names, (e.g. There's a package called ode and a file called /usr/bin/ode in plotutils). Also some packages provide the same file but don't work interchangably and sometimes explicitly conflict (e.g. libXm in lesstif and openmotif).

For a good use of the provides field (I think) check out my kernel suggestion.

sjakub · 2011-03-04 02:47:32

I just spent 15 minutes looking for a package that provides glxinfo. I had some problems with desktop effects in KDE and tried to figure out what is going on.
OK, maybe not 15. But still waaaay too long.

Seriously, mesa-demos?

I found that, for example, in debian and ubuntu it is in mesa-utils. And in Arch there is no such package.
I saw it before (I did pacman -Ss mesa) and I thought "some demos, but no tools or anything like that.
I need a utility for displaying information about current state of drivers, not demos..."

Would it be possible to have it changed to mesa-utils? mesa-demos is not obvious. If anything it is counterintuitive.

brebs · 2011-03-04 04:09:13

It's what upstream have called it.

Don't expect perfect sense from free software

And choosing a different name to upstream, will *increase* confusion, when people become familiar with upstream's chosen name.

sjakub · 2011-03-04 04:11:39

brebs wrote:

It's what upstream have called it.

Fair enough... It's a weird decision on their part though...

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[SOLVED]glxinfo & glxgears no longer in mesa-7.9-1?

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