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#1 2010-11-26 04:14:13

jlacroix
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Blank Screen After Today's Updates

I was thrilled to see the new kernel and intel drivers show up in today's updates, but after rebooting, I have a blank screen on my E6410 laptop, which has Intel graphics. The Dell logo comes up, then the Grub menu, and then the screen goes blank. It was working perfectly fine before the update. Did anyone else run across this?

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#2 2010-11-26 18:13:59

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

what about fallback?

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#3 2010-11-26 18:22:39

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

shulamy wrote:

what about fallback?

ezik

Same problem.

If I disable KMS, I can make it to the KDM screen, but when I log in, it immediately crashes right back to the KDM screen again.

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#4 2010-11-26 20:45:36

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

have you tried to prevent Xorg from loading the "glx" module?
Maybe same problem as here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=109049#10

seems on some systems Xorg does not start with KMS disabled and loaded glx module

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#5 2010-11-26 21:10:46

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

SiD wrote:

have you tried to prevent Xorg from loading the "glx" module?
Maybe same problem as here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=109049#10

seems on some systems Xorg does not start with KMS disabled and loaded glx module

I just tried downgrading the kernel back to 2.6.35 and that fixed it for me. There must be something wrong with the new kernel.

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#6 2010-11-27 10:02:29

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

Same problem here. How do you downgrade anything or change any settings when the screen just goes blank right at the start?

edit: I'll share some more for good measure. I'm on an nvidia gfx so it shouldn't be Intel-related. The system actually seems to be booting since I can log in and sudo reboot in the dark to prompt a reboot, which means I could technically try and fix this without seeing any output. That just seems dumb, though.

edit2: Removing vga=773 from the kernel line at boot at least restores cli visibility. startx returns "no screens found" so I'll try a downgrade.

edit3: Downgrading to 2.35, along with downgrading nvidia & nvidia-utils to 256-something as well as ndiswrapper and tiacx finally got me back to where I need to be with X working fine.

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#7 2010-11-27 14:43:36

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

I also had this problem (I have intel video).  Removing "vga=773" from /boot/grub/menu.lst fixed it completely for me.  No additional changes required.

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#8 2010-11-27 16:42:48

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

I don't have vga=773 in my menu.lst anywhere, this is unfixed for me.

In the bug report I posted, they told me to switch from UMS to KMS, but I'm already using KMS.

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#9 2010-11-27 17:05:36

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In … small_area  can also result in a black screen. But wouldn't kick in before kms is enabled, which, unless you edited the initciop, happens later in the boot process.

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#10 2010-11-27 17:10:36

Mr. Alex
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

jlacroix wrote:

...It was working perfectly fine before the update. Did anyone else run across this?

Nope... Toshiba A100 with Intel graphics. OK after upgrade.

Last edited by Mr. Alex (2010-11-27 17:11:03)

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#11 2010-11-27 17:42:12

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

I guess I'm going to stick with kernel 2.6.35 for now. For some reason or another, the latest intel driver works like garbage with the old kernel, but until this bug is fixed I guess I have to just deal with it.

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#12 2010-11-27 20:15:01

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

cake wrote:

Same problem here. How do you downgrade anything or change any settings when the screen just goes blank right at the start?

If you have access to another computer, you can ssh in. It's because of this that I always try to remember to have sshd set up early on in any install.

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#13 2010-11-28 20:39:24

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

Today I installed Arch on a spare hard drive. I did not install X, any drivers, or applications, only core. After I installed it, I ran an -Syu and rebooted. Same problem. Something with this kernel is not compatible with this laptop.

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#14 2010-11-29 00:19:44

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

I also had this problem (I have intel video).  Removing "vga=792" from /boot/grub/menu.lst fixed it completely for me.  No additional changes required.

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#15 2010-11-29 00:28:02

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

risky wrote:

I also had this problem (I have intel video).  Removing "vga=792" from /boot/grub/menu.lst fixed it completely for me.  No additional changes required.

As for me, that line already wasn't there. Even a completely vanilla menu.lst won't work.

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#16 2010-11-29 22:23:56

ampel
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

risky wrote:

I also had this problem (I have intel video).  Removing "vga=792" from /boot/grub/menu.lst fixed it completely for me.  No additional changes required.

same here on an intel video. removing vga=773 from /boot/grub/menu.lst fixed it. strange.

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#17 2010-11-29 22:55:51

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

I think that's a completely separate bug. My menu.lst didn't have that to begin with.

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#18 2010-11-29 22:56:07

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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

As for my laptop I should probably add I have a dell inspiron 1545 and I dont have anything special in my boot menu concerning intel video.
No problem here

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#19 2010-11-29 23:07:48

jlacroix
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Re: Blank Screen After Today's Updates

whaevr wrote:

As for my laptop I should probably add I have a dell inspiron 1545 and I dont have anything special in my boot menu concerning intel video.
No problem here

From doing research online, the Dell Latitude E6x10 series and several HP models seem to be all that's affected.

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