[kde-unstable] KDE 4.6

zephyr · 2010-12-02 21:45:56

jxy wrote:

This is great news. Apart from screen brightness, everything works.

That is going to be a problem for all laptops where xbacklight does not work, that is most laptops using the nvidia blob.
Safest solution: use hal until it is fixed. I think gnome-power-manager uses the same method.

Zom · 2010-12-02 21:56:45

zephyr wrote:

I have found a solution to enable sleep/suspend to ram without hal running by editing /usr/share/kde4/services/powerdevilupowerbackend.desktop .
In line 5 InitialPreference=200 change 200 to 20 or any value below 100.
This should be fixed in 4.6 Beta 2.
Source: http://www.afiestas.org/one-step-closer … -hal-free/

Oh my, thank you!

ilpianista · 2010-12-02 21:58:34

@zephyr
great! Thanks for the info. I'd like to include that patch but they (yet) didn't commit anything

Zom · 2010-12-02 22:37:25

bash wrote:

@zephyr
great! Thanks for the info. I'd like to include that patch but they (yet) didn't commit anything

You could just add the edited file to the relevant package I suppose, but that might not be the arch way(tm).

zephyr · 2010-12-02 22:38:44

bash wrote:

@zephyr
great! Thanks for the info. I'd like to include that patch but they (yet) didn't commit anything

No problem!

The info I posted works as it should without any problems.
However drf has implemented a nicer solution statically loading the backends in trunk. That is why the patch must be "heavier" than a simple change in the .desktop file.

I think this is the commit implementing this:

http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1199129

hellnest · 2010-12-03 09:33:28

Anyone facing a filesystem problem?? today i've got twice filesystem error i guess it caused by nepomuk >.<" it makes me can't enter KDE

ilpianista · 2010-12-03 09:44:18

zephyr wrote:

I think this is the commit implementing this:
http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1199129

Added in kdebase-workspace 4.5.80-3

tuxador · 2010-12-03 13:10:55

can you please add the option for "instant nepomuk" like in this article?
it seems that the other distros have this by default :-/

ilpianista · 2010-12-03 13:26:10

@tuxador
I read that post time ago, but that's a kernel option and I can't do anything (and I know nothing about).

Feature request opened at https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/21969
EDIT: Well, has been rejected and if you read the comments you understand why. The wiki page has been updated anyway.
BTW, beta2 tagged; release day is 7th!

tuxador · 2010-12-03 21:35:51

thanks! je answer is clear
thank you bash for the effort

scio · 2010-12-04 00:55:25

bash wrote:

Added in kdebase-workspace 4.5.80-3

I just updated and it looks like it erased my /usr/share/kde4/services/powerdevilupowerbackend.desktop

Was that intentional?

Edit:

I'm also getting:"No valid Power Management backend plugins are available. A new installation might solve this problem." on start up. Re-installed kdebase-workspace, but no change.

Last edited by scio (2010-12-04 01:00:02)

hellnest · 2010-12-04 14:15:05

BETA 2 is out? Just talk with anmma in IRC, he's run beta 2 right now

Zom · 2010-12-04 14:34:41

hellnest wrote:

BETA 2 is out? Just talk with anmma in IRC, he's run beta 2 right now

This is the release schedule. Beta 2 is tagged, but not yet released. You can however install it from SVN AFAIK.

hellnest · 2010-12-04 21:44:09

I just now realize that my internal DVD-RW isn't detected. K3B said that i need HAL to be running is there any clue to bypass it & make my drive work again?

scio · 2010-12-05 02:08:27

Is anyone else running HAL-less and getting: "No valid Power Management backend plugins are available. A new installation might solve this problem."?

hellnest · 2010-12-05 03:35:40

It's just happen to me now... >.<"

RufusD · 2010-12-05 10:40:03

do I really need all of these repos?

[kde-unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[testing]
## Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community-testing]
## Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

The reason for asking is that my kmail2 sucks horribly. To an extent that I'm thinking I fucked up something pretty seriously (I guess if *noone* was able to delete mails from kmail2, I would have heard about it). Besides, I vaguely remember not using that many repo's when I tested KDESC 4.5 beta. My mirrors are the following, maybe they have gone bad?

Server = http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/kde-unstable/

I tried re-installing kde, but maybe not in the right way (still trying to find my way through pacman after having used apt-get for many a year). How would I go on about removing KDESC and installing it again? I tried finding the one lib to rule them all (taking down all of KDESC if removed), but couldn't find it. How do I remove KDESC for good? What's the best metapackage to install afterwards?

Best regards,
Rufus D

Last edited by RufusD (2010-12-05 10:40:28)

SS4 · 2010-12-05 12:15:58

RufusD wrote:

do I really need all of these repos?
[kde-unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[testing]
## Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community-testing]
## Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
The reason for asking is that my kmail2 sucks horribly. To an extent that I'm thinking I fucked up something pretty seriously (I guess if *noone* was able to delete mails from kmail2, I would have heard about it). Besides, I vaguely remember not using that many repo's when I tested KDESC 4.5 beta. My mirrors are the following, maybe they have gone bad?
Server = http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/kde-unstable/
I tried re-installing kde, but maybe not in the right way (still trying to find my way through pacman after having used apt-get for many a year). How would I go on about removing KDESC and installing it again? I tried finding the one lib to rule them all (taking down all of KDESC if removed), but couldn't find it. How do I remove KDESC for good? What's the best metapackage to install afterwards?
Best regards,
Rufus D

I don't use kmail so I cannot be sure but have you tried installing the old version either from source or using a package stored in cache.

ls -A /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep kmail

will tell you if you have any kmail in cache and if so you can always use pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kmail-version (use tab completion to find the package)

If you want to uninstall kde

pacman -Rnsu kde

and then

pacman -S kde

to reinstall.

If you want to roll back to stable kde then edit /etc/pacman.conf and comment [kde-unstable] and maybe [testing] and then run

pacman -Syyuu

which will manually refresh your repos and roll back

Zom · 2010-12-05 13:18:21

scio wrote:

Is anyone else running HAL-less and getting: "No valid Power Management backend plugins are available. A new installation might solve this problem."?

I've been running HAL-less for a couple of days (Like, 4 days or so) without any trouble. Though, the battery applet fails to read the charge some times, but this usually fixes itself after a suspend-resume.

E: I'm suspending by using pm-utils though, and not by upower.

Last edited by Zom (2010-12-05 13:18:58)

agapito · 2010-12-05 13:33:56

hellnest wrote:

I just now realize that my internal DVD-RW isn't detected. K3B said that i need HAL to be running is there any clue to bypass it & make my drive work again?

Same problem here. I tried installing k3b-svn and still happens.

tuxador · 2010-12-05 18:23:54

k3b depends on HAL, it isn't a part of the "software distribution" , juste a "cousin" or sometihng like that, (like amarok)
i hope je k3b team will remove this dependency, it's almost the last thing hal-related.
i have the power-managment issue too, when i check solid,there is only hal in the power mamagement item. i dont know how to switch to upower.
the applet shows correctly the battery-status but when i switch between different profiles ( performance, powersave) i dont notice any difference in the screen brithness for example

zephyr · 2010-12-06 11:51:59

I have opened a bug to have the GStreamer backend split from libcanberra since that adds gstreamer -dependencies on kdebase-runtime. You can use the PKGBUILD attached on the report and files from ABS/svn to build a gstreamer-free libcanberra.

FS#21996

mangus · 2010-12-06 20:10:43

I have a windows7 partition not mounted in fstab and it comes up in dolphin but I cant mount it as I always done in the past , dolphin throws a permission error for udisks. It used to work with hal (Im hal free now)
Has anybody a clue about this? Am I missing something in udisks , polkit or other configuration?
thanks

ChALkeR · 2010-12-06 20:32:32

Repository : kde-snapshots
Name : kdelibs
Version : 4.5.82svn1202684-2
URL : http://www.kde.org
Licenses : GPL LGPL FDL
Groups : kde-snapshots
Provides : kdelibs-experimental
Depends On : qt>=4.7.0 shared-mime-info hal xz-utils heimdal enchant jasper openexr kdesupport-strigi libxtst giflib kdesupport-soprano ca-certificates xdg-utils kdesupport-polkit-qt
qca libxss hicolor-icon-theme fam kdesupport-libattica kdesupport-phonon kdesupport-oscaf dbusmenu-qt-git libwebkit grantlee libpulse
Optional Deps : None

Why does it still depend on hal?
It works fine without hal for me now.

flamelab · 2010-12-06 20:38:18

1. It's not the kde-snapshot thread here, it's for the semi-official [kde-unstable]

2. HAL-less KDE 4.6 is still a pain, unless they fix it soon. Dolphin is very slow with Udisks enabled.

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