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#1 2011-01-02 20:27:13
- taylorchu
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arch packages should use gamin by default
why doesn't arch currently use gamin by default?
here is the difference: http://people.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin … ences.html
and it seems like http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/fam/ should go gamin.
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#2 2011-01-02 20:42:50
- loafer
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
Don't we get a choice with Arch? Anyway, the Wiki is quite explicit.
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#3 2011-01-02 21:14:33
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
If I see it correctly, you're proposing something similar to FAM.
Who here uses FAM? I don't. I'm sure a lot of others don't.
Choice is where it is.
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#4 2011-01-02 21:14:56
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
@loafer
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/fam/ i only mean the packages that need fam
sorry, my bad.
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#5 2011-01-02 21:18:47
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
@ Telkkar I meant:
Warning: FAM is obsolete; use Gamin instead, if possible. Gamin is a re-implementation of the FAM specification. It is newer and more actively maintained, and also simpler to configure.All men have stood for freedom...
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#6 2011-01-02 21:25:34
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
ignore
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#7 2011-01-02 21:52:02
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
gamin provides fam (pacman -Qi gamin | grep Provides), as it reimplements it.
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#8 2011-01-02 23:03:43
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
gamin does not provide everything fam does...
Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system defined to be a subset of the FAM (File Alteration Monitor) system.
(emphasis mine)
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#9 2011-01-03 00:13:13
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
gamin does not provide everything fam does...
famin website wrote:Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system defined to be a subset of the FAM (File Alteration Monitor) system.
(emphasis mine)
For practical purposes, does that matter? Over here gamin is required by samba and gnome-vfs, both of which I think work fine with it. Perhaps there's other packages which require fam (rather than gamin)?
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#10 2011-01-03 00:18:34
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
I thought gamin's NFS support was lacking. But I have not looked into it in a while...
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#11 2011-01-03 00:23:25
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
@allan
gamin is a subset of gamin just because there are some not-implemented but exotic functions. please read the [difference] page (the first post).
Basically it is exactly like for using the fam interface. From a programmer point of view this is the same API, and one can make use of the existing FAM documentation.
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#12 2011-01-03 04:39:45
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6179
As far as i can tell all those stuff are obsolete.
Dolphin uses the kernel's inotify to monitor such stuff
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#13 2011-01-03 06:35:43
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
@dolby
shouldn't we check these packages:
courier-imap
courier-maildrop
courier-mta
gnome-vfs
samba
snd
thunar
still use fam?
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#14 2011-01-05 09:20:48
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Re: arch packages should use gamin by default
Thunar in testing isnt using any of those either.
Thing is that inotify is part of the Linux kernel so its platform specific, i dont know if a library like fam or gamin isnt needed for all the other apps in the list.
Even dolphin can be built with support for them. Its still an optional dependency.
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