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#1 2011-01-04 10:49:28

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KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

Hi!

I'm using KDE desktop environment (minimal installation), and I have patched fontconfig and libxft with original LCD packages from AUR.
Problem is, that fonts in KDE panel and desktop are rendered without subpixel rendering, and every other application uses it normally.
You can see the problem in screenshot: http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9335/kdefonts.png (it's easier to see when you zoom in)

I've checked ~/.fonts.conf , tried to create /etc/fonts/local.conf , tried to log-in with new user account, but without luck.

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#2 2011-01-04 15:16:54

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

I had the same ;-)


enable font dpi at 96  and  put fonts at 10  minimum


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#3 2011-01-04 15:41:12

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

Nope, it doesn't help sad

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#4 2011-01-04 15:44:18

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

you have infinality patch ??

If yes, did you followed these instructions : http://www.infinality.net/blog/  ??


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#5 2011-01-04 15:48:04

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

No, I have original LCD Filter patch.

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#6 2011-01-04 15:55:31

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

try infinality patch

or

remove /etc/fonts.local.conf  AND ~/.fonts.conf.  Then  reboot


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#7 2011-01-04 16:06:40

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

I've tried infinality before, but didn't manage to get fonts to look like I want. I like thin fonts, and original patch renders it that way.
Anyway, I doubt that infinality patch would fix that, because it looks that kde panel and desktop doesn't apply configured subpixel rendering at all.

I've tried already to remove /etc/fonts.local.conf  and ~/.fonts.conf, no difference.

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#8 2011-01-04 16:13:59

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

remove /etc/fonts reinstall  fonts packages
=> makes you come back at 0 conf

then reinstall fontconfig packages, libxft  and cairo



my rendering with infinality and kde: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7164 … dering.png


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#9 2011-01-04 17:53:45

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

Gillian00 wrote:

remove /etc/fonts reinstall  fonts packages
=> makes you come back at 0 conf

Which font packages should I reinstall? I found /etc/fonts files in fontconfig package, but without symlinks which are created in default installation.

Gillian00 wrote:

my rendering with infinality and kde: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7164 … dering.png

Yeah, I had those, but they look too blurry to me. I like sharp fonts, like they are in my screenshot (it's a matter of what you get used to, I guess).
btw. it looks like your fonts in desktop widgets (and those in bottom panel) are also not subpixel rendered (try to zoom in and look for color edges).
which theme(s) do you use?

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#10 2011-01-04 18:03:00

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

I have these packages :  xorg-fonts-type1 ttf-dejavu artwiz-fonts font-bh-ttf font-bitstream-speedo gsfonts sdl_ttf ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-cheapskate ttf-liberation ttf-ms-fonts

You just need to remove entire /etc/fonts  to going back at 0 conf (I don't really understand your question)

I know for kde plasma desktop  but I'm still waiting the answer from infinality forum.  But it is still correct this way.  what could I do else ?


I'm using bespin theme, nitrogen for window titles  and a mix of oxygen/air  for widgets 




ps: sorry for my bad english ^^


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#11 2011-01-04 19:26:38

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

Gillian00 wrote:

I have these packages :  xorg-fonts-type1 ttf-dejavu artwiz-fonts font-bh-ttf font-bitstream-speedo gsfonts sdl_ttf ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-cheapskate ttf-liberation ttf-ms-fonts

You just need to remove entire /etc/fonts  to going back at 0 conf (I don't really understand your question)

Well, after default system installation, there are many symlinks in /etc/fonts/conf.d pointing to conf.avail directory. When I delete /etc/fonts/ directory, and reinstall fontconfig package, /etc/fonts/ is re-created, but without those symlinks, so fonts looks messy (becase these files contains font locations, rendering options, font substitution etc.). so it's not exactly 0 conf. I could re-create them manually, but I'm not sure this is the best way. How can I find out which packages do I need to reinstall?

Gillian00 wrote:

I know for kde plasma desktop  but I'm still waiting the answer from infinality forum.  But it is still correct this way.  what could I do else ?

I'm not sure they could help you, since I don't use infinality patch, and having the same problem. It's probably KDE/plasma bug.

Gillian00 wrote:

ps: sorry for my bad english ^^

Don't worry, my english is far from being perfect, too smile

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#12 2011-01-04 19:47:09

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

I read these symlinks conf  could be replaced by /etc/fonts/locale.conf.  It's why I suggested you to remove them.

When I had similar problems, I removed /etc/fonts, ~/.fonts.conf then reinstalled  cairo, libxft and fontconfig (have you tried ubuntu packages? it's more sharp), reboot  and then created a new font.conf.  And it went well

BTW:
Have these in your ~/.Xresources:
Xft.autohint: 0
Xft.lcdfilter:  lcddefault
Xft.hintstyle:  hintfull
Xft.hinting: 1
Xft.antialias: 1
Xft.dpi: 96
Xft.rgba: rgb

??

and do not forget that ~/.fonts.conf  must be   " chattr +i " (how to say in english? unusable) if you use /etc/fonts/locale.conf   


I know for kde bug, it is caused by qt4.7  but I asked them for a workaround  ;-)


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#13 2011-01-05 10:23:45

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

OK, I've tried that, but still no difference. Changing qt graphics system also doesn't help.

Yes, I've tried ubuntu patch, but it's even more blurry smile

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#14 2011-01-05 11:55:50

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

I'm sorry but I don't know what you could do more ...!  what I recommended you to do  worked for me

Tell me if (I hope so) and How you manage it  when you succeed !


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#15 2011-01-05 19:12:35

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

OK, I will... if you find solution, post it to this thread...

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#16 2011-01-06 11:43:29

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

OK, I've found a workaround:
- install Androbit Plasma Theme (http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=123524)
- switch kickoff kde menu style to classic

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1407/k … bpixel.png

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#17 2011-01-06 13:28:23

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Re: KDE Panel and desktop font rendering

ok thanks ;-)


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